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Date:      Wed, 08 Nov 1995 22:23:51 -0800
From:      "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com>
To:        Joe Greco <jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com>
Cc:        jmb@kryten.atinc.com, hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Kerb Encr Telnet 2.1R WARNING!! 
Message-ID:  <11190.815898231@time.cdrom.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 09 Nov 1995 00:08:54 CST." <199511090608.AAA21871@brasil.moneng.mei.com> 

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> No, the one before that (95102? I think).  However, they appear to have 
> identical dysfunctionality.

You didn't exactly make this clear.. :-) Thanks for the additional
detail.

I'll make a general point here since some people don't seem to be
aware of a couple of things:

	1. I get a LOT of email.  Even if you just talked to me the day
	   before, please don't assume that I'll remember what we were
	   talking about.  At any given time, I have between 40 and 50
	   simultaneous dialogs going on.  Please include context.

	2. If you're having problems, please be sure to include info
	   about version of FreeBSD you're using.  The only exception
	   I can deal with is if you're genuinely using the absolutely
	   latest bang-up-to-date snapshot (check ftp.cdrom.com before
	   assuming that you've got the latest if you're not on the
	   freebsd-announce mailing list).

	3. If you're reporting a "drop dead" problem then please list
	   all the steps you can remember that led up to the problem's
	   occurance.  Everything after "first, I turned it on" is
	   generally relevant!  If you give me too much detail, I'll
	   just filter it.  If you give me too little, I'm left scratching
	   my head.

	4. Yes, I'm pretty short-tempered and irritable right now.
	   You'd be too if you had Walnut Creek CDROM on the phone,
	   screeching for their 6 months late CD, and several dozens users
	   dropping horror stories in your mailbox about how everything is
	   still miserably broken.

	   All heads I've bitten off over the last few weeks will be
	   returned with a short apology after the 2.1 CD goes to
	   replication.. :-)


> Point (which I was trying to get across) being, BOTH SNAP's yield broken
> telnet/telnetd when installed like this.  You said this was fixed in the
> later SNAP  :-)

Well, I genuinely thought it was.  I couldn't reproduce it on my
laptop, anyway.  You're selecting *both* krb and des distributions
from the Secure menu?  You can have des alone, but not krb alone.

> If you are slamming tags today I do not know if I will have time to
> "repair" this in time - my free time today is minimal, maybe a few hours to
> work on it tonite.  I can repost my "from-scratch" notes about how I
> Kerberized smyrno.sol.net.  Or this can get shipped broken, which is silly.

I'm not slamming tags today.  My release machine has developed
spontaneous sig 11's that aborted my last 3 release builds.  I'm about
ready to throw it out the window or put in a 75Mhz Pentium. :-(

					Jordan


P.S. Applications for release engineer now being cheerfully accepted
     at the door! :-)



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