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Date:      Wed, 15 Jan 1997 12:47:02 -0700 (MST)
From:      Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org>
To:        joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: mount -o async on a news servre
Message-ID:  <199701151947.MAA04182@phaeton.artisoft.com>
In-Reply-To: <Mutt.19970115003324.j@uriah.heep.sax.de> from "J Wunsch" at Jan 15, 97 00:33:24 am

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> > > Btw., FreeBSD also re-reads the geometry later if needed.  The number
> > > presented at boot is only for convenience there.
> > 
> > *Convenience*?!?!?!
> 
> Yes, 99.5 % of all disks claimed by the `sd' driver are non-removable.
> It's often convenient to remember that the number of blocks appeared
> in the boot message (and thus, in /var/log/messages), for later
> reference.
> 
> I'm pitying you that you're among the remaining 0.5 %. :-)

The only reason "it's often convenient" is that tools like disklabel
don't ioctl() the device to ask it for the information.

It's *stupid* to have the kernel print out information (if it prints
it out, it knows the information) and then have to have it pass through
a human (typing it back in) in some later tool.

The only convenience served here is for those people who want to
keep things like disklabelling and fdisking too complicated for
the average user to add a disk without 5 or siz messages to -quests,
-hackers, or -current.

Which, of course, sucks.

It is an (un)usability issue.


					Terry Lambert
					terry@lambert.org
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Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present
or previous employers.



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