From owner-freebsd-current Sat Aug 4 17: 5:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from draco.over-yonder.net (draco.over-yonder.net [198.78.58.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B28D637B401 for ; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 17:05:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gh@over-yonder.net) Received: by draco.over-yonder.net (Postfix, from userid 1012) id 45D2062D0F; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 19:05:14 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 19:05:14 -0500 From: GH To: "Matthew D. Fuller" Cc: Garance A Drosihn , Peter Wemm , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Userbase of -current Message-ID: <20010804190514.I48649@over-yonder.net> References: <20010718061815.BCEEE38CC@overcee.netplex.com.au> <20010719103042.E3398@futuresouth.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010719103042.E3398@futuresouth.com>; from fullermd@futuresouth.com on Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 10:30:42AM -0500 X-OS: FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 10:30:42AM -0500, some SMTP stream spewed forth: > On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 09:34:41PM -0400, a little birdie told me > that Garance A Drosihn remarked > > At 11:18 PM -0700 7/17/01, Peter Wemm wrote: > > >If I had to guess, I'd put the total [genuine] -current userbase > > >at between 20 and 50 people. And many of those intentionally lag > > >by a few weeks to a month or two. I have a strong feeling that the -CURRENT userbase is quite a bit larger than that, but I have nothing conclusive. > > At the kernel-confab at usenix, I heard some people talking about > > how "current wasn't really as bad as people assume it is". I must > > admit I wonder how much current is actively used. I know I try > > to build a new up-to-date current every two or three weeks, but I > > don't do much more on it than test a few changes. I am certainly > > not "stress-testing" it. Almost all of my real day-to-day work is > > done on machines which are tracking -stable. > > FWIW, without extraordinary reason, I don't run 'production' machines on > -CURRENT (I think the last time I did so was when I ran a news server on > 3.0-CURRENT). However, my workstation runs -CURRENT, and my dialup router > does as well (mainly to make it easier to update), my laptop... come to > think of it, almost all my of personal machines run -CURRENT, except for > one that runs 2.1-STABLE (386SX. 4 MB RAM. 80 meg disk. Last benchmark: > 13 days for a buildworld. Don't think I'll update it any time soon). I'll second this. I do all of my daily work on -CURRENT workstations, and I have had no siginificant problems since I started nearly two years ago. Of course, there is always the slim chance of some rogue (ah hem, un-thoroughly-tested) commit destroying something, but I have faith in the developer community. All my personal boxen (three, at the moment) run -CURRENT. I don't know if I would call my general use "stress testing", but touch a large portion of the functionality on a daily (sometimes the days merge...) basis. > -- > Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fullermd@over-yonder.net > Unix Systems Administrator | fullermd@futuresouth.com Daniel M. Kurry -- What, no one sings along with Ricky Martin anymore? My kid sister does (but then, she prefers pico to vi ...) -- Suresh Ramasubramanian, alt.sysadmin.recovery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message