From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Sep 10 16:19:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from smtp05.primenet.com (smtp05.primenet.com [206.165.6.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F193614D16; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 16:19:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr04.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp05.primenet.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA15004; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 16:19:14 -0700 Received: from usr04.primenet.com(206.165.6.204) via SMTP by smtp05.primenet.com, id smtpd7TtHaa; Fri Sep 10 16:19:09 1999 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr04.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA16184; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 16:19:06 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199909102319.QAA16184@usr04.primenet.com> Subject: ANSWER: "FreeBSD" registered by Walnut Creek To: brett@lariat.org (Brett Glass) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 23:19:06 +0000 (GMT) Cc: davids@webmaster.com, winter@jurai.net, jlemon@americantv.com, chat@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19990910161538.044422c0@localhost> from "Brett Glass" at Sep 10, 99 04:36:57 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At times, even I become mildly annoyed, which is a surpassingly difficult state for an outside agency to invoke. It is amazing to me how many people are apparently ignorant about what is available at a few keystrokes, and are willing to expend millions of keystrokes proving their unwillingness to alleviate that ignorance. It is equally amazing to me that people who claim intolerance of that expenditure are equally ignorant, and equally willing to tolerate that which they claim to despise, and expend an equal millions of keystrokes proving their unwillingness to alleviate that which they claim is frustrating to them. What is even more amazing is that the information that would alleviate the frustration of the intolerant must be readily available to the second group of people, yet they remain silent on fact, and involve themselves only to periodically fan the flames of ignorance. -- Using the USPTO search form located at: http://trademarks.uspto.gov/access/search-mark.html I obtained the following information: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Word Mark FREEBSD Pseudo Mark FREE BSD Owner Name (REGISTRANT) WALNUT CREEK CDROM, INCORPORATED Owner Address 1547 Palos Verdes Mall, Suite 260 Walnut Creek CALIFORNIA 94596 CORPORATION CALIFORNIA Attorney of Record Joseph K. Siino Serial Number 74-546171 Registration Number 1955727 Filing Date 07/06/1994 Registration Date 02/13/1996 Mark Drawing Code (1) TYPED DRAWING Register PRINCIPAL Published for Opposition 11/21/1995 Type of Mark TRADEMARK International Class 009 Goods and Services CD ROMs featuring an archive of computer programs which may be accessed for use; DATE OF FIRST USE: 1993.08.31; DATE OF FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 1993.08.31 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Amusingly, this beats the resitration of the "APPLE" service mark by Apple Computer, Inc., by almost a year and a half. Rather than continue on the question of what one can do with the trademark, I suggest that interested parties contact either Walnut Creek CDROM or Joseph K. Siino, if he is still counsel, directly. The questions you should ask are: 1) Have the rights in the trademark been assigned? 2) If the answer to #1 is no, what are the terms of use of the trademark? 3) If the answer to #1 is yes, than is the assignment exclusive? 4) If the answer to #3 is no, what are the terms of use of the trademark? 5) If the answer to #3 is yes, who is the assignee? 6) Given the information from #6, contact the assignee directly, and begin again at #1. That is all. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message