From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 16 7:44:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mailgate.originative.co.uk (mailgate.originative.co.uk [62.232.68.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3819137B718 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 07:44:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from paul@freebsd-services.co.uk) Received: from freebsd-services.co.uk (lobster.originative.co.uk [62.232.68.81]) by mailgate.originative.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 716691D149; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 15:44:46 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <3AB23512.DB9D6F8D@freebsd-services.co.uk> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 15:45:22 +0000 From: Paul Richards X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Matthew N. Dodd" Cc: Mark Murray , Matt Dillon , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ethernet entropy harvesting seriously pessimizes performance References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Matthew N. Dodd" wrote: > > On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, Mark Murray wrote: > > Lots of security minded people what _all_ the interrupt entropy > > they can get, and this method gives them that while allowing others > > to throttle the harvester back. > > Lots of -CURRENT users want to be able to use their systems to write code > without tripping over /dev/random and friends. > > I hear lots of people objecting to this code and alot of handwaving in > response. > > Choose reasonable defaults already. > > The -CURRENT cvs tree isn't the proper venue for doing crypto research. Well, I dunno about that. It dovetails into the thread in developers about getting people to use FreeBSD for research and to my mind I think -current probably is a legitimate place for research. As long as the basic -current doctrine of not commiting totally non-functional code is adhered to there's no reason why experimental code can't be tried out in -current. If you don't like the problems that research cause you then -current isn't what you should be running -- it's an old mantra that isn't repeated enough these days. Of course, I'd much prefer it if -current wasn't totally hosed as much as it has been recently but random hasn't caused half the turmoil that some other changes have so it's unfair to pick on it as a major problem. I think Peter gets the award for causing most downtime in -current recently, which is quite a feat given the SMP work taking place :-) Paul. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message