From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 5 19:10:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E047E1065672 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 19:10:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [IPv6:2a01:348:0:15:5d59:5c40:0:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D0CE8FC1A for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 19:10:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4280DE643B; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 20:11:17 +0100 (BST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=cran.org.uk; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=mail; bh=H0WtqJVe/0/g KIKZp/RW4uh3oUE=; b=Cs7fwclAMExktQJb6B3trqsOucX0LfbE+3Xyz9khr1rj UJMbTcLcKtMISLekV0WKu3v7HPrtr1LxNMlXbKXpC328ZXbzBremUI7UtxlLe6Ub n3Hwo1VYBzP5JfFL1DB7bQfpPogWs9hWM061beINi2DTdFmDFs8bxQg7wWmCn8s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=cran.org.uk; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=mail; b=YLDn9G /ZMyR68Rs+L9dzem27i5Yph4JMn+6jUE3PKtRpxnD5jElLriZztZ1aDQuWKtd9DF OyPFiL98HhX55XeD3yLnic0Ln43rtzoVgEozL7KP/82JTiR4ulZpFjNwmufBVRBY zB3MGh2wGqQ6+U4463OnWc6Xe9slrPxQZfou0= Received: from [192.168.2.11] (unknown [93.89.81.205]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1B956E643A; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 20:11:17 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4FCE59AA.1090601@cran.org.uk> Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 20:10:34 +0100 From: Bruce Cran User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Antonio Olivares References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Kurt Buff , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 19:10:37 -0000 On 05/06/2012 19:27, Antonio Olivares wrote: > I believe that should be unnecessary. It would only be a matter of > time before someone breaks the M$ layer of poop that is supposed to > prevent folks from booting other OSes other than Window$. They hit > the panic button too soon IMHO. Press Delete/F1 during boot, select Advanced -> Trusted Computing. Change TCG/TPM Support to "No". But according to Cory Doctorow, that's far too finicky and highly technical (http://boingboing.net/2012/05/31/lockdown-freeopen-os-maker-p.html)! By the way it's not Microsoft's stuff people would have to break, but UEFI. I think secure boot actually makes sense, but preventing users disabling it or installing their own keys on ARM platforms is totally wrong. -- Bruce Cran