From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 4 01:19:28 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EB7E16A418 for ; Sat, 4 Aug 2007 01:19:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrhett@svcolo.com) Received: from kininvie.sv.svcolo.com (kininvie.sv.svcolo.com [64.13.135.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F4CC13C458 for ; Sat, 4 Aug 2007 01:19:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrhett@svcolo.com) Received: from [10.66.240.106] (public-wireless.sv.svcolo.com [64.13.135.30]) (authenticated bits=0) by kininvie.sv.svcolo.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l741JRvg051106; Fri, 3 Aug 2007 18:19:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jrhett@svcolo.com) In-Reply-To: <46B3D27F.10603@yahoo.com> References: <46B1AC75.9060907@FreeBSD.org> <2FB74E09-4C74-4653-A2EE-B88F9F1C08C6@svcolo.com> <46B3D27F.10603@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <81177D1D-AEDB-4DB6-88F2-E4BA46CEFB9B@svcolo.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jo Rhett Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 18:19:20 -0700 To: John Merryweather Cooper X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Spam-Score: undef - jrhett@svcolo.com is whitelisted. X-CanItPRO-Stream: default X-Canit-Stats-ID: 132241 - 1d931adfc6dc X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 64.13.135.12 Cc: FreeBSD Stable , Doug Barton Subject: Re: named.conf restored to hint zone for the root by default X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2007 01:19:28 -0000 On Aug 3, 2007, at 6:12 PM, John Merryweather Cooper wrote: > I would appreciate it if the personal attacks ceased. There was no personal attack there. I never called him names or made any remark about his lifestyle or anything else. I did say that he isn't paying attention to the people who disagree with him, but that is an observable fact. > As an observer > with no ax to grind on this issue, it is apparent that slaving the > root > zone is technically possible, but not necessarily good policy. Actually, it has been argued/shown-by-those-who-would-know that while you can do it, it won't work in a stable manner once everyone starts doing it. The protocol itself is not designed for many unknown associations, really. > It would > be nice if those arguing against slaving the root zone would > articulate > the specific effects on top-tier servers and quantify them. This has been done, both here and on the DNS Operations list where this is actually topical. Repeatedly. This topic is dead, horse beaten to crap, except that Doug Barton really loves this idea and won't listen to why it won't work, and why it shouldn't be done, and why he shouldn't have done it that way. He just keeps coming back and saying "now lets talk about this some more..." -- Jo Rhett senior geek Silicon Valley Colocation Support Phone: 408-400-0550