From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 11 05:05:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3D1D106564A; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 05:05:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (pancho.soaustin.net [76.74.250.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2CE08FC0A; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 05:05:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 2FD105615D; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 23:05:10 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 23:05:10 -0600 From: Mark Linimon To: dougb@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20110311050510.GA16469@lonesome.com> References: <488C7790-D3E2-4441-BEC8-DD26D8917181@freebsd.org> <4D792578.6000303@FreeBSD.org> <2B21F26B-D7EA-480B-BFA2-BD12DDDB7721@FreeBSD.org> <4D7932AC.1020508@FreeBSD.org> <883EDE8E-309A-497B-A9ED-2350AC1D2546@FreeBSD.org> <20110310235432.GA11144@lonesome.com> <4D796857.1020305@FreeBSD.org> <1150BA48-1B1D-4C8E-9059-ADF5CE2C494C@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1150BA48-1B1D-4C8E-9059-ADF5CE2C494C@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: Doug Barton , FreeBSD Ports Subject: Re: [HEADS UP] GNU make 3.82 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 05:05:10 -0000 I answered this question last night on IRC, aDe answered it in email: > What is the urgency in upgrading gmake that prevents "fix the broken > ports first" as an option to at least explore? Now that gmake is out, if the past is any indication, some project will quickly upgrade to it. We can wait for that to happen, and then have to scramble, or we can get ahead of the curve. Not every single change to the Ports Collection rises to the level of requiring a committee meeting to generate a consensus. IMHO this does not. In this case it was "here is someone willing to do the work, here's an action plan, let's just do it." I've already spent nearly as much time arguing with you as I had spent running the initial -exp run (more, if you exclude the work I did to update the processonelog script), so I'm done here. mcl