From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 24 22:41:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F11910656C7 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 22:41:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy1-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy1-pub.bluehost.com [66.147.249.253]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5C7468FC14 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 22:41:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 18285 invoked by uid 0); 24 Feb 2011 22:41:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy1.bluehost.com.bluehost.com with SMTP; 24 Feb 2011 22:41:36 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=AsU3XdIdXQImMY2CmjyaoyjwDuFpomCLqeHmzD7iG65KTZpV1nk3it0Yf5z9Na1RTDADtUmvnjTeLH95VBTo7oaXKbqV390zsQtMnuElitNe0rH/MgcfW14VwogclFUT; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PsjsM-0002jZ-Qi for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:41:35 -0700 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:30:49 -0700 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:30:49 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110224223049.GA13424@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110224213322.GA13089@guilt.hydra> <20110224221057.GA13262@guilt.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jI8keyz6grp/JLjh" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Backtick versus $() X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 22:41:36 -0000 --jI8keyz6grp/JLjh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:34:25PM +0000, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Chad Perrin apotheon.com> writes: > > > > 1. You think some measure of popularity of a decision makes it correct. >=20 > No. Why do you substitute others' email messages for an actual, direct response to my question, then? > > > > 2. You don't like (t)csh. >=20 > No. I just point out it=E2=80=99s not a suitable scripting shell. Who said anything about using it for scripting? The URIs you provided all lead to others talking about what to use as an *interactive* shell. I use tcsh as an interactive shell all the time, and use sh as a scripting shell. Having (t)csh as the default shell in no way means you have to do your admin scripting in (t)csh. > > > > 3. You think your opinions are so self-evident that everybody will just > > immediately understand them, their reasoning, and the best way to proce= ed > > from there. >=20 > I may have some shortcomings when it comes to getting a point across. You didn't even try to make a point. >=20 > > 1. Is it a good idea to replace (t)csh? >=20 > Probably. (Even Android uses mksh these days.) But that=E2=80=99s up to y= ou > guys. On the other hand, it=E2=80=99s tradition. "Probably." Why? Just saying it's so doesn't make it so. >=20 > But then, I never asked for this (here, I did in other places) either. > See above. What was the point of referring to the "sensible thing", then? >=20 > Anyway, goodnight (and I=E2=80=99ll probably not get back to this thread, > just hope to have brought some thought-provoking impulse). It's not thought-provoking if it doesn't include any thought. If you think you have a compelling argument, you'll have better luck provoking thought by letting us in on it. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --jI8keyz6grp/JLjh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk1m3BkACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWouQCdEoeK513Y2w3/iHAHUM0gWfBr ioAAoLEfFXVNvkw5lZ6z1kg78PG9Ipmi =v3HF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jI8keyz6grp/JLjh--