From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 15 13:22:45 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AFA1A893 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 2014 13:22:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nm23-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm23-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7356519D1 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 2014 13:22:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.138.100.118] by nm23.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Apr 2014 13:22:37 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.58] by tm109.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Apr 2014 13:22:37 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp209.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Apr 2014 13:22:37 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bellsouth.net; s=s1024; t=1397568157; bh=Vp3UstjUJBTGGGa8pYmyiZrWBa8p86su9A1yG2RQij8=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:Message-ID:Date:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:From:To:CC:Subject; b=ikfEX7wFYq6Y0U1o53LI8l0Tlee76Xldnx1F8boL7V729J32+8W2rQwmFzLE8uDH4KjlIDfvH1j3ddad9x940Tkx6JMP0Eva+ye0i1WY3gNZB5Yw9K8KN4qYuGaD2HiGKIGbxWxV52SS1xMFSI13LgvhavRoDK/s+Rk60Q9yhfk= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 463721.6671.bm@smtp209.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Message-ID: <463721.6671.bm@smtp209.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 13:22:37 +0000 (UTC) X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: fpr9slwVM1kwry.nwjJ56fF9ogKS.XrQ9MYTzkUu5.uDEcE r24sRAwQcBvLn1eIz1bHbs7fgssMddTgQCF3HU5tFYHZdVJiVwVhGZlZft4d Jh9ZBJC1NfqOFzsqL2.7O.o_LqFTjzuBZRAeNd2r7HDUsvP0GqXo7P0H0YW1 o76meSHpPxcj.YiCOGeyPfITkYl5IcF8IPJ6PTnnA2P3HTbKSINMeoSyiZFm 7v310IWDL_tVR4sIeqjuzDGRtyNqMm1896L4XdQyseuiucuqp_S6ZW8CWWBj l5T1.Jaw0xUaYdtvSFudWkqa1w9LdKT6zzFStY95yHfAtwKaG8PHgg7pwQ0R QsBRocucNrzvBwA3jNEeyftkQcqUqHiLvKcv9bwh01rGPIJoko11SYUsn7OJ 7ciwgEAWKBELzl3d6ndXPslDvxzBED.lAwCEAr9LL78FVDHzKiksZ.nvbPx3 6o_ceFjnNQ36yChEVJYOLEtspQp7Wu0UzYddQ2rDgWxFqlPo7covHixVZ1lH fxRszBiJdbrhpWa1_Fw4b7A6SaWYCTDpjCebVQed4P5gIn3DD3mNkuzHLViJ 0vtmxgRVx910p3UbidFl1K3lmHCzBEz.g5w0ko0_U.xd7JeACH34- X-Yahoo-SMTP: Kz_aW1.swBBYof3zAD7.RWzXz9ZAQVDMml1VADsbgPT4Kq79LC0- X-Rocket-Received: from localhost (mueller6724@96.28.178.143 with plain [98.138.105.24]) by smtp209.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Apr 2014 13:22:37 +0000 UTC From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Mysterious crash/freeze in X11 with newcons Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 13:22:45 -0000 I had two crashes, or more accurately, freezes, when web-browsing. First was with Firefox on an easy National Weather Service page, I was scrolling down with down-arrow key, and system suddenly froze, no response to keyboard or mouse, display stayed (until I hit Reset). uname -a shows FreeBSD amelia4 11.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT #4 r264310: Thu Apr 10 06:56:03 UTC 2014 root@amelia4:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SANDY11NC amd64 NC in kernel name is for NewCons, SC would be SysCons, and I compiled kernel both ways. Second was with Midori, actually twice, on a more complex site, 1040now.net : I checked /var/log/messages, and /var/log/messages.0.bz2, and noticed Apr 15 08:29:52 amelia4 kernel: error: [drm:pid806:drm_do_get_edid] *ERROR* VGA-1: EDID block 0 inva lid. and a few minutes later, Apr 15 08:33:58 amelia4 kernel: error: [drm:pid806:drm_do_get_edid] *ERROR* VGA-1: EDID block 0 invalid. Apr 15 08:33:58 amelia4 kernel: sysmouse: unknown ioctl: t:40007413 Apr 15 08:33:58 amelia4 kernel: sysmouse: unknown ioctl: t:40007413 Apr 15 08:33:58 amelia4 kernel: sysmouse: unknown ioctl: t:80007410 I notice from earlier, and think this must have been the crash with Firefox: pr 14 23:09:18 amelia4 kernel: error: [drm:pid87853:drm_do_get_edid] *ERROR* VGA-1: EDID block 0 in valid. Apr 14 23:09:18 amelia4 kernel: sysmouse: unknown ioctl: t:40007413 Apr 14 23:09:18 amelia4 kernel: sysmouse: unknown ioctl: t:40007413 Apr 14 23:09:18 amelia4 kernel: sysmouse: unknown ioctl: t:80007410 I think these errors must have been the cause of the freeze/crash, and looking for somebody who recognizes what is *ERROR* VGA-1: EDID block 0 invalid. Would I be better with syscons instead of newcons? But then, how would I open a root window for such things as mounting and umounting disks/partitions, and anything else requiring root privilege? Or would I do better on 10-stable? But then if the problem is with the new Xorg, 10-stable would be no stabler than the bleeding-edge 11-head. I am/was in window manager icewm-1.3.8 but think, since the problem occurred with both Firefox and Midori, the problem is with the new Xorg and possibly newcons rather than web browser. Reason for building www/midori was to see if it would be safer than Firefox in terms of stability, and to compare bugs with Midori-0.5.5 on the System Rescue CD. Tom