From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 27 9: 3:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from gate.volvo.se (gate.volvo.se [192.138.110.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63D5414C57 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 09:03:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@nike.volvo.se) Received: by gate.volvo.se; id SAA08103; Thu, 27 May 1999 18:03:34 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from unknown(131.97.124.70) by gate.volvo.se via smap (4.1) id xma007850; Thu, 27 May 99 18:03:16 +0200 Received: by nike.volvo.se with (8.6.12/1.37) id SAA19754; Thu, 27 May 1999 18:03:16 +0200 Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 18:03:14 +0200 (MET DST) From: John K To: doehrm@aubi.de Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Windows NT In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Yes, i can definatly see a use for Windows NT for some applications that are not (yet ?) available on other systems. I want to be openminded and choose a solution that suits me. Whatever the OS. I don=B4t administer any machines (except for our DNS=B4s, and NT is horrib= le=20 at that)=20 It=B4s also a personal thing, and i relly like the idea of running free=20 software anyway , with nothing important said as usual, im on my way home now take care all /john On Thu, 27 May 1999, =3D?iso-8859-1?Q?Markus_D=3DF6hr?=3D wrote: > > > I'm not trying to praise NT - just wanting some information > > > explaining why people should choose one OS over another. >=20 > I can tell you we're running our SAP R/3 installation on NT servers with = an > average uptime of 60 days and above. Most reboots are caused by updates o= f DB > and/or system, not due to crashes. I didn't believe before that NT is as > reliable as it appears.=20 >=20 > IMHO the main reason, why people choose NT for p. ex. webserver is the > availability of 'ready-to-install' software packages for e-commerce appli= cations > etc. Although all the *BSD and *nix are obviously much more stable and mu= ch > faster, many companies don't have any specific knowledge of programming H= TML nor > PHP-3. They'd like to have a ready solution for their need, only customiz= ation > has to be done, no real programming and adaption. They want install on mo= nday > and run productive at thursday.=20 >=20 > It don't believe NT is as realiable as using it for an e-commerce solutio= n, the > security holes in IIS are too bad and make me sick believing that it's se= cure. > On the other hand for making NT real secure, you need very much knowledge= , I > think much more, than on any *nix, because of the proprietary binary-only > registry database, the file system rights and the unexpected behaviour wh= en > chainging something and the worse: lack of debugging errors.=20 >=20 > People always think that NT is easier in administration - a real fallacy.= The > complexity is hidden behind a nice point-and-klick-gui but in the depth i= t's > much more complicated than any other OS I know. If there are problems, yo= u > always has to stand up, go to the console and try do find out what's goin= ' > wrong. No remote administration possible without buying expensive package= s (SMS, > ResourceKit etc.). Try to administer NT over a 28.8 Modem and you better = drive > 50 miles before stopping and starting services remotely. It's worse, real= ly > worse. >=20 >=20 > -- > Markus Doehr =20 > IT Admin =20 > AUBI Baubeschl=E4ge GmbH =20 > Tel.: +49 6503 917 152 =20 > Fax : +49 6503 917 190 =20 > e-Mail: doehrm@aubi.de > MD1139-RIPE =20 > ************************* =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message