From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Tue Jul 30 01:45:46 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26A4ABD0A9 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2019 01:45:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from clay.daniels.jr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vs1-xe2f.google.com (mail-vs1-xe2f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::e2f]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 659B4861C3 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2019 01:45:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from clay.daniels.jr@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vs1-xe2f.google.com with SMTP id 2so42354472vso.8 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2019 18:45:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=Q4a/etJNf4kx84aKEcEUuHgCK/LVRmb+LMbXfgiHCFE=; b=Tji9j4wRnD5rD7f2hn2m5C9VLfixzwdmuTQDBL5FlHTRqL0/is4T2S7J2h9OElvucx EmlAYG6OnNeCezInoZbsoZGwM3liCs+HKvzMMpVxGMVW5sF7zFuQW1YxGJz6LFI0X2bV ysLV4ALzvN0jWyHS6QGYuK/mf83GensDRJ30hB7uGcmAG8898KZZAaAEcONSxIOmt1Em Fp1lRHaaAqK6vBNw5j4IcwpH6PJhGylBKgQPJHDEl7MnsVAKb1l/Z9NSRToU97MEOuWf XuGbK4m/wkzAiE8i4Tv7qjzSdgVr1Dwcv+8Uhu1N0nQcViZfrVnDVBb8hYGgU6aablOm iMzQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Q4a/etJNf4kx84aKEcEUuHgCK/LVRmb+LMbXfgiHCFE=; b=PAHiOPsPx3chHyWf/oZY0uMBAaRa0CD22CzPzasY52JdQHL78wUpysoL5oO8ZVY6ws kdJueFmGqukVO5SWx4wfKxEOecY1GY5mLTusIupwyUctXF7srqbD5h4FDV4zBOyYiL4P Jd8cwv+4na2OTRouC3WQDhEm2qDyfMg9vHEuNoDhaOUMSSv7prMhCg/sYdXPNNkofKUc ODooKPX6cmxruVUgc008K/DrGUt8uI/1c6AXhkZ3wxCKDnWSwr/YrO+YCPUw/osKtP7x uh4+MtYotUyqH5OnFJmmfISUEziiriIdSjM8S5//UsYiyIsmTSCptMgDvaSx9/sqvvjk c/VQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAU0LSvp94th8GkGOYYRK7+6bIwISdMDZBFW5iDh8Ogs/BwPViEL 3d8Yj7AdbU6baW2xCLnwK/Uwhr7hElEILlsogg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzQAv+HAYFd1P6+eIvmXdwoyj1Y2gJKIEiEYTG67v365dwWhG3W8IVpW3CapAqH7djv2MVcRRzOccfvTy1h/ls= X-Received: by 2002:a67:8c02:: with SMTP id o2mr67140572vsd.167.1564451144564; Mon, 29 Jul 2019 18:45:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <201907300011.x6U0BO8w046636@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> In-Reply-To: <201907300011.x6U0BO8w046636@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> From: "Clay Daniels Jr." Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 20:45:31 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Boot still broken from r349133-r349160 - Was re:(Problem with USB after r349133) To: "Rodney W. 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FreeBSD is one of the few that give you both choices. The problem goes deeper than any one operating system. If you've ever used the Rufus tool to make a bootable usb, which is all Rufus does, you may have come across problems with "mount root". I found this article, answered by a Rufus developer very enlightening. https://superuser.com/questions/1170832/why-are-there-different-options-for-creating-bootable-usb-compared-to-a-cd I have a collection of usb thumbdrives here at my desk, and use them a lot, but I also bought me some blank dvd disks and use them too. But I think you are right, Nick Wolff's problem may be a a bug to be reported. All I know is I took the same file, FreeBSD-13.0-CURRENT-amd64-20190725-r350322-disc1.iso , burned it to a dvd, and I'm now writing this email from the FreeBSD 13.0-CURRENT r350322 partition of my computer. Clay