From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 9 20:35:22 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DEECA01416 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 2015 20:35:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6BEE11F9A for ; Wed, 9 Sep 2015 20:35:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (dynamic-216-186-222-143.knology.net [216.186.222.143] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id t89KZDYU016854 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 9 Sep 2015 15:35:14 -0500 Subject: Re: Storage question To: FreeBSD Questions References: <55EF3D23.5060009@hiwaay.net> <20150908220639.20412cbd@gumby.homeunix.com> <55EF5409.8020007@yahoo.com> <55EFC2DA.3020101@hiwaay.net> <5EB5C2C2-575B-40BD-BF6A-85F396C058FE@kraus-haus.org> <55F058FC.6080204@hiwaay.net> From: "William A. Mahaffey III" Message-ID: <55F09801.5040801@hiwaay.net> Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 15:40:43 -0453.75 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2015 20:35:22 -0000 On 09/09/15 15:08, Paul Kraus wrote: > On Sep 9, 2015, at 12:04, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > >> Hmmmm .... could you amplify on that point about no compression w/ MythTV ? > If MythTV is using any of the normal sorts of video files, they are already compressed. Asking ZFS to perform additional compression (even if just to figure out that it gains nothing) is a waste of cycles. Yeah, that's what I was hoping. I *think* I can weather that (waste of cycles). > >> This box will have 16 GB of RAM & 32 GB of swap, so I *think* I will be OK on RAM. > You should be fine with 16 GB RAM for a streaming box. > >> I will probably stream video over my network most of the time, but might be using the ZFS as well .... I just got done copying the stuff fromhttps://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/GPTZFSBoot/9.0-RELEASE verbatim into 2 shell scripts to automate the setup, > I would never follow any instructions verbatim unless they did _exactly_ what I needed. I will also point out that while there are only one set of instructions for 9.x, the necessary steps changed as the minor revs of 9 went by. The instructions tended to apply to the latest and if you did not have a cache of the older instructions and needed to recover an older release you were in trouble. I am doing a scratch install, 9.3R, so no worries about older stuff hanging around or needing to be recovered. Valid point, however. I went verbatim to start with since I trust that savvier eyes than mine have been through them & they should be a reliable starting point, if not almost verbatim actual commands. > > Follow the instructions through a few times by hand. Understand what they are doing and _why_, then script what _you_ need to do. For example, I never used as many different datasets under /var as indicated on that page. I just did not need that degree of control. You may need (or want) more. > >> but if there are known issues w/ MythTV & ZFS+compression, more rethinking will be needed. > -- > Paul Kraus > paul@kraus-haus.org Good point on blindly following, I did in fact make a few tweeks, & will probably follow what you said about /var. I do agree that I probably don't need that much resolution on configuration, although since it is scripted, not much effort on my part, & reduced opportunity for fat-fingering. Thanks (again) for the input & have a good one. -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr.