From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 26 10:06:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0C0E16A4CE; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 10:06:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte244.dsl-acs2.sea.iinet.com [209.20.244.233]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FE7943D1F; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 10:06:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from question@closedsrc.org) Received: by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9B0D445069; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 10:05:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 10:05:07 -0700 From: Linh Pham To: Ceri Davies , doc@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20040426170507.GA89495@q.internal.closedsrc.org> References: <20040426115648.GA10877@submonkey.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="EVF5PPMfhYS0aIcm" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040426115648.GA10877@submonkey.net> Organization: closedsrc.org Mail-Copies-To: poster X-PGP-Key: http://closedsrc.org/~question/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: Re: Image patents X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 17:06:10 -0000 --EVF5PPMfhYS0aIcm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2004-04-26 12:56 +0100, Ceri Davies wrote: # This is really starting to annoy me now. # See http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=3D20040424232421417. #=20 # I'd really like to convert everything in www/en/gifs/ to a .png and # commit the diff at http://people.freebsd.org/~ceri/gif_diff. #=20 # Cons are that we lose animated gifs (such as powerani.gif) and some # images with transparency have lost it - see # http://shrike.submonkey.net/~setantae/gifs/ for the old and new, but # this is just from a pass through "{jpeg,gif}topnm | pnmtopng" so could # possibly be solved. #=20 # Objections, comments, suggestions on how to do it better and offers to # do it kindly accepted. I definitely agree that the image patents are getting insane and would welcome a shift from GIF and JPEG to PNG, though there is still a chunk (albeit small, but who knows) of browsers that still do not support PNG images. For animated GIFs, the alternate would be MNG (animated PNGs): http://www.libpng.org/pub/mng/ Then again, MNG support in browsers pretty much limited to Mozilla/Gecko-based browsers, Konquerer (and Safari?), and IE/Netscape 4.x via plug-ins. For my website, I've already converted GIF/JPEG to PNG images and serve them based on a very simple browser detection done in PHP. It's not the best solution, but it works for my needs. I took a look at your diff file and snickered at the fact that the directory names are still "gifs/". Maybe it's a chance to re-name it to "img/" and drop the different image formats into their own sub-directory? Of course doing that would probably wreak havoc on CVS, which I don't think the maintainers like :\ Anyway, that's my US$0.01. --=20 Linh Pham question@closedsrc.org Webmaster and FreeBSD Geek http://closedsrc.org Apprentice Manager Editor and Writer http://www.daemonnews.org C++ is to C, as lung cancer is to lung | There is always one more bug. --EVF5PPMfhYS0aIcm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFAjUFDwhofDeWkDMIRAgL4AJ9rKHARmuhqkwqaxQS1EubHhI8D7QCcC6oO L3wRIos2PMtjZwVgLZKBXAs= =g9qf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --EVF5PPMfhYS0aIcm--