From owner-freebsd-chat Sat May 18 17:32:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from excalibur.skynet.be (excalibur.skynet.be [195.238.3.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E45CF37B409 for ; Sat, 18 May 2002 17:32:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.9.8.215] (ip-27.shub-internet.org [194.78.144.27] (may be forged)) by excalibur.skynet.be (8.11.6/8.11.6/Skynet-OUT-2.19) with ESMTP id g4J0VHH29387; Sun, 19 May 2002 02:31:17 +0200 (MET DST) (envelope-from ) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: bs663385@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3CE6E8ED.84E431F@mindspring.com> References: <20020516004909.A9808@daemon.tisys.org> <20020516151801.A47974@energyhq.homeip.net> <20020516172853.A7750@daemon.tisys.org> <3CE40759.7C584101@mindspring.com> <20020516220616.A51305@energyhq.homeip.net> <3CE43D08.1FDBF0A3@mindspring.com> <20020517163624.GB9697@hades.hell.gr> <3CE58F73.1A7F50AF@mindspring.com> <15589.63655.94078.482179@guru.mired.org> <3CE61284.80ADD241@mindspring.com> <15590.58578.811389.223502@guru.mired.org> <3CE6E8ED.84E431F@mindspring.com> X-Grok: +++ath X-WebTV-Stationery: Standard; BGColor=black; TextColor=black Reply-By: Wed, 1 Jan 1984 12:34:56 +0100 X-Message-Flag: Your copy of Outlook will expire in 3 days. Please contact Microsoft about purchasing a new license. Remember: software piracy is a felony! Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 02:30:28 +0200 To: Terry Lambert , Mike Meyer From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: The road ahead? Cc: Brad Knowles , Giorgos Keramidas , Miguel Mendez , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 4:51 PM -0700 2002/05/18, Terry Lambert wrote: > Can't do a graceful shutdown without a button. > > I actually would be uncomfortable with something that didn't have > an activation sequence of some kind that didn't include something > that you normally don't do (plugging/unplugging is supposed to be > limited to installation and deinstallation, not activation and > deactivation). I can't think of a VCR, DVD, or cable box that operates this way. All consumer electronics devices I know of are capable of losing power and rebooting cleanly. Consumer electronic devices that can't take this sort situation simply don't survive in the business. > Actually, you don't have to do the DNS thing, if you can do the > DNSUPDAT thing. So: > > o Find the gateway > o Find your IP > o Find the name server from the root > o Reverse lookup your IP to get the domain name > o Use the DNS information based on your role to > configure yourself This assumes that reverse DNS is set up correctly. It also assumes that you can get through the firewall. -- Brad Knowles, "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message