Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 10:42:11 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper <yanegomi@gmail.com> To: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> Cc: Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Training wheels for commandline (was Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?) Message-ID: <CAGH67wQ6bYg5Hn%2Bx7d5=ZV3twkrPqc2XqEqcPtMLBddCoEn-pA@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <EAA0281B-63E6-42AA-A5B9-B84494CE9675@bsdimp.com> References: <CA%2BQLa9B-Dm-=hQCrbEgyfO4sKZ5aG72_PEFF9nLhyoy4GRCGrA@mail.gmail.com> <20120705082857.GB37083@server.rulingia.com> <4FF55864.8040807@FreeBSD.org> <201207051215.44799.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <4FF5BF27.2030609@my.gd> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1207051838440.3799@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <4FF5C48C.9030106@my.gd> <EAA0281B-63E6-42AA-A5B9-B84494CE9675@bsdimp.com>
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On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote: > > On Jul 5, 2012, at 10:45 AM, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > >> >> On 7/5/12 6:38 PM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>>> inexperienced users. >>>> >>>> Having to enable it manually defeats its very purpose. >>> >>> so is FreeBSD future direction to be moron-OS just like linux is now, or >>> is that just another stupid idea on that forum that came and... will pass? >>> >>> Quite important. There are still people that want normal OS. >> >> >> Just because you don't like the idea doesn't make it stupid, and just >> because it comes from linux doesn't make it bad. > > Both true. However, if the database lookups took a long time, or had a high overhead to maintain, then it would be stupid to have on by default. One other thing: just because one can build ports on an ARM board or a Netbook, it probably isn't the best idea in the world to do (although I do it because I'm too lazy to setup a Tinderbox for all 5 of my FreeBSD hosts). Similarly, building a database of command to package mappings on an underspec'ed machine is probably not the wisest thing to do. Given that the data changes relatively infrequently, it seems like something that would be best generated along with packages. Or -- here's a novel thought! Figure out how Debian does it, steal the data produced with their packaging scheme, then remap the .debs to FreeBSD ports/packages! Thanks, -Garrett
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