From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Nov 21 09:13:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA06307 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 09:13:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from ravenock.cybercity.dk (disn57.cybercity.dk [194.16.57.57]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA06291; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 09:13:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sos@localhost) by ravenock.cybercity.dk (8.8.2/8.7.3) id SAA01528; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 18:14:43 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199611211714.SAA01528@ravenock.cybercity.dk> Subject: Re: Who needs Perl? We do! To: rkw@dataplex.net (Richard Wackerbarth) Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 18:14:28 +0100 (MET) From: "Soren Schmidt" Cc: sos@FreeBSD.org, hackers@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Richard Wackerbarth" at Nov 21, 96 10:54:44 am From: sos@FreeBSD.org Reply-to: sos@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In reply to Richard Wackerbarth who wrote: > > >Am I hearing a volounteer here ?? > > or is there silence again this time ?? > > I suggest that you reconsider your (core) willingness to delegate. > I AM doing some chores which, I assure you, some of the "customers" > consider important. You are ?? > I HAVE volounteered to take on some things and been rebuffed in my efforts. Really, maybe what you wanted to do, wasn't what needed to be done ?? > In any case, by delegating certain areas, you are defacto adding those > individuals to the (now expanded) "core". No, I'm not, core is big enough allready, but we need core to be more of a governing/directionshowing entity, instead of a poor workhorse.. Like it or not, there has to be rules (like in the real world out there), and they should be followed. If we have X developers working in Y different directions, we have lost the game. So if one want's to participate, one has to follow the rules, simple as that... > My comment about dodging the > consequences by attempting to distance yourself from the problem still > applies. It is analogous to the situation of the engineering staff being > smeared with the same brush as the manufacturing and marketing staffs. > Although one group did an excellent job on their part, it will never be > recognized if the overall impression of the total package is poor. I guess we should stop here as we are not going anywhere, and I'm using valuable time trying to explain things, where I should be producing code/fixes, which btw is considerably more rewarding than this.... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end ..