From nobody Tue Nov 25 13:52:06 2025 X-Original-To: current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4dG3z33qm7z6JBQ2 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2025 13:52:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ronald-lists@klop.ws) Received: from smtp-relay-int-backup.realworks.nl (smtp-relay-int-backup.realworks.nl [87.255.56.188]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4dG3z21Wklz3LT5 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2025 13:52:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ronald-lists@klop.ws) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=klop.ws header.s=rw2 header.b=cVVcF3pp; dmarc=pass (policy=quarantine) header.from=klop.ws; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ronald-lists@klop.ws designates 87.255.56.188 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ronald-lists@klop.ws Received: from smtp-relay-int-backup.realworks.nl (crmpreview2.colo2.realworks.nl [10.2.52.32]) by mailrelayint1.colo2.realworks.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4dG3yt2RmMz1Cm for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2025 14:52:06 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=klop.ws; s=rw2; t=1764078726; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type; bh=m4tvgE6W8m7FA0ThCczJfyGGNEcwm4LPvp3dbaTKLPk=; b=cVVcF3ppiE6TpEVxtg8EnDOa0hcFWLeKOi6KPEYgH6sMnou09Tk4BEsRfiUUvLZ44LbMbW QSD6r9wLNYUHH7gAxogix3CXnmickYSQ2Zl1sMu5Jdcl1KK+lBIYpg4Ay7PqY5TkXXZ30p BQgsQSQM2S9IZu0UnsZfD5mngPS6QeKo4CCWD9gHvLxOfq+iSy3Y1mHaUIZjzICOMEUpJ5 Itrt95RK0bMx3n2hCieZtfj7gV6uqQFg6vAgBYmhpO+6QWYlrAsAuefZuJEZ6NNi2HWkq4 O3VnkQFFD6UhSY0xICQQsPiADi/eEnhMlURT6hGv54P6Jo7zFoRTk9yZYpuv7w== Received: from crmpreview2.colo2.realworks.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by crmpreview2.colo2.realworks.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52B6F26020F for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2025 14:52:06 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2025 14:52:06 +0100 (CET) From: Ronald Klop To: current@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1375923085.6629.1764078726226@localhost> Subject: building libclang and WITHOUT_TOOLCHAIN? List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6628_565370350.1764078725958" X-Mailer: Realworks (774.21) X-Originating-Host: from (83-81-212-149.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl [83.81.212.149]) by crmpreview2.colo2.realworks.nl [10.2.52.32] with HTTP; Tue, 25 Nov 2025 14:52:06 +0100 Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Originating-User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:145.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/145.0 X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.50 / 15.00]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.999]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[klop.ws,quarantine]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[klop.ws:s=rw2]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:87.255.56.128/26]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_X_PRIO_THREE(0.00)[3]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[current@freebsd.org]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[current@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[klop.ws:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4dG3z21Wklz3LT5 ------=_Part_6628_565370350.1764078725958 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, My build setup contains WITHOUT_TOOLCHAIN which saved me a lot of time on the Raspberry Pi's. Since a while they are building llvm/clang stuff nonetheless. I have the feeling this started when llvm/clang started to be build as private libraries. https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd-src/commit/2e47f35be5dc61945afdbd1a70e8fd505c032c94 Could this change have influenced how WITHOUT_TOOLCHAIN works? Would it be possible to skip building these libraries using other knobs? Or is my thought about this unfounded? Regards, Ronald. ------=_Part_6628_565370350.1764078725958 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi,

My build setup contains WITHOUT_TOOLCHAIN which saved me a lot of time on the Raspberry Pi's.
Since a while they are building llvm/clang stuff nonetheless.
I have the feeling this started when llvm/clang started to be build as private libraries.

https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd-src/commit/2e47f35be5dc61945afdbd1a70e8fd505c032c94

Could this change have influenced how WITHOUT_TOOLCHAIN works?
Would it be possible to skip building these libraries using other knobs?

Or is my thought about this unfounded?

Regards,
Ronald.

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