From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 06:58:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1D24106566B; Sat, 15 Jan 2011 06:58:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ade@FreeBSD.org) Received: from panix.lovett.com (panix.lovett.com [166.84.7.128]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAFC38FC0A; Sat, 15 Jan 2011 06:58:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cpe-66-68-128-204.austin.res.rr.com ([66.68.128.204] helo=[172.16.32.150]) by panix.lovett.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.72 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Pe060-0002MV-B0; Sat, 15 Jan 2011 06:58:44 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Ade Lovett In-Reply-To: <7029F1A3-87A2-4203-840C-48B712EA70B8@mac.com> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 00:58:33 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <4D309563.1000404@freebsd.org> <7029F1A3-87A2-4203-840C-48B712EA70B8@mac.com> To: Marcel Moolenaar X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: BSDInstall: merging to HEAD X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 06:58:46 -0000 On Jan 14, 2011, at 19:31 , Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > On Jan 14, 2011, at 10:26 AM, Nathan Whitehorn wrote: >=20 >> The final architecture on which we use sysinstall, ia64, is currently = unsupported, because I don't know how to set up booting on those systems = -- patches to solve this are very much welcome. >=20 > Don't let this stop you. I'll work with you on this after the dust > has settled. Just out of random curiosity. Seriously. Exactly why, short of "of course it runs", in which case NetBSD is --> = way, why are we even trying to handle ia64 as a platform, regardless of = tier, when it is patently obvious that it is going absolutely _nowhere_ = in terms of a viable platform? I ask the question in all seriousness. Ports/Packages, well, a decent = amount of them won't work on anything less than (i386|amd64) but that's = nothing new. But even spending time building them for, what, the <200 = (I'm being generous) folks that run FreeBSD/ia64. We _have_ a 64-bit platform. It's /amd. The fact that even as we = speak, random chip manufacturers are banging out new P4/Xeon processors = conforming to this standard, years after they had a vague chance to = steal the server market, indicates that this line is dead. _dead_. DEAD. At least I can pick up a box for <$50 from ebay and run /sparc64 on it. = Say the same for /ia64? Didn't think so. Nuke it. =46rom orbit. With extreme prejudice. -aDe