Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 11:58:22 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein <bright@wintelcom.net> To: Steve Lewis <nepolon@systray.com> Cc: "James E. Pace" <jepace@pobox.com>, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Scaling Apache? Message-ID: <20000828115822.A1209@fw.wintelcom.net> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.05.10008281156450.22201-100000@greg.ad9.com>; from nepolon@systray.com on Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 12:03:41PM -0700 References: <20000828114314.Y1209@fw.wintelcom.net> <Pine.BSF.4.05.10008281156450.22201-100000@greg.ad9.com>
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* Steve Lewis <nepolon@systray.com> [000828 11:53] wrote: > On Mon, 28 Aug 2000, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > > > What do you recommend for a web server if Apache is "entirely useless" may > > > I ask? > > > > Zues, thttpd, roxen, there's a lot out there that are a lot faster. > > > > Supposedly Zues is king. > > Do you happen to know what these do better than apache? "everything", apache needs a process to handle each request this doesn't work when you have thousands of connections per-second it can't even deal with 200-300 per-second. One trick is to hack apache use the "accept filters" that I brought into FreeBSD (from Yahoo), you can search the mailing lists for patches to have apache use them. > When considering the potencial load of a web server, I look at the > hardware as the bottleneck. I have never seen apache consume that much > process time, though my experience is limited. Usually we hit bandwidth > limits before we hit the box's peak, IME. The hardware is only the bottleneck because it has crummy software running on it. > They is also the consideration of supported packages... is James' site > made of static pages or dynamic ones? How are they generated? Would it > require re-engineering of the site to switch to another web daemon. > > I imagine that these faster servers would use the hardware in a way that > keeps request overhead lower (logging and caching tricks) but the > trade-offs in server-side scripting support could kill that. That is true, one should be investigating fast-cgi or some equivelant to deal with that. > Does anyone know of a good FAQ or other resource on load balancing with > apache? Many companies sell load balancers that you can stick in front of apache, but if one has the chance to avoid apache for a busy site right away, they should. -- -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] "I have the heart of a child; I keep it in a jar on my desk." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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