From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 17:33:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2138F9C2 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2014 17:33:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 10pmail.ess.barracuda.com (10pmail.ess.barracuda.com [64.235.150.226]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5663591E for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2014 17:33:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from modemcable009.181-203-24.mc.videotron.ca (modemcable009.181-203-24.mc.videotron.ca [24.203.181.9]) by mx14.ess.sfj.cudaops.com (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 04 Dec 2014 17:33:05 +0000 X-BESS-ID: 1417714385-531714-6313-8-1 X-BESS-VER: 2.5.3-r1411251633 X-BESS-Apparent-Source-IP: 24.203.181.9 X-BESS-Outbound-Spam-Score: 0.00 X-BESS-Outbound-Spam-Report: Code version 3.2, rules version 3.2.2.154630 Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------- 0.00 BSF_BESS_OUTBOUND META: BESS Outbound 0.00 HELO_DYNAMIC_DHCP HEADER: Relay HELO'd using suspicious hostname (DHCP) X-BESS-Outbound-Spam-Status: SCORE=0.00 using account:ESS21901 scores of KILL_LEVEL=8.0 tests=BSF_BESS_OUTBOUND, HELO_DYNAMIC_DHCP X-BESS-BRTS-Status: 1 Received: from Server02.ad.ezmax.ca (192.168.0.6) by Server02.ad.ezmax.ca (192.168.0.6) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.913.22; Thu, 4 Dec 2014 12:32:36 -0500 Received: from Server02.ad.ezmax.ca ([::1]) by Server02.ad.ezmax.ca ([::1]) with mapi id 15.00.0913.011; Thu, 4 Dec 2014 12:32:18 -0500 From: Ian Lord To: Andrea Venturoli , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: RE: Backup solution for freeBSD/Symantec Backup exec porting Thread-Topic: Backup solution for freeBSD/Symantec Backup exec porting Thread-Index: AdAPU2lynqG5qtBcS1maXjj78WJW+gAvB7KAAAo79CA= Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 17:32:17 +0000 Message-ID: References: <999d7e80e60f466682c736f275b75788@Server02.ad.ezmax.ca> <54809639.4070103@netfence.it> In-Reply-To: <54809639.4070103@netfence.it> Accept-Language: en-US, fr-CA Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [192.168.0.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2014 17:33:15 -0000 >Just some thoughts... >Many others have suggested to avoid tapes; they have some points, but I th= ink they are much too pessimistics. I personally >manage several backup sys= tems, some based on tapes, some on disks, some on a mix of the two.=20 >Think twice before moving from tapes to disk; both have their pros and con= s. >I'm using Bacula in at least four different scenarios and I can't agree wi= th you when you deem it as immature. Sure it has some >rough edges (what bi= g program doesn't?), but it never failed me. >Also I found its documentation far from bad. >I can't tell you anything about tape library support, though, since I neve= r used a tape library. >Also, it comes without a GUI; personally I'm fine with CLI, but I agree in= this case there are some shortcomings. There are plenty >of web interfaces= available, though I'm still waiting to find some time to try them. >In one case I replaced Backup Exec with Bacula and everyone is much happie= r that way. >Just my 2c. >bye > av. I know I am going against the trend as everyone is talking about using HD a= s a backup device, but we are looking as something "my life will depend on"= . If we were to loose data, we would end up with a multi-million dollars la= w suit and we'll just go bankrupt. As we are a SAAS solution, everything is already redundant, we can drop a p= lane in one of our datacenter and customer won't even notice (technically s= peaking) as everything is load balanced and replicated live across the site= s. We have very high security with loadbalancers, IDS, DDOS protection, etc. But let say a hacker would manage to get in and play around, or even an ang= ry employee, or... A simple "rm -r /" and all of our protection is gone. Our 2 distant copies = and the zfs snapshots also... It's kinda hard for a hacker to format all the tapes in a library furthermo= re, some tapes will be put in a safe... I love the idea of using HD, so simple, cheap and fast, but if you need abs= olute peace of mind, I think a tape backup is much more reliable in this se= nse in my opinion. That's why I'm trying to see if bacula could be a good solution in our scen= ario. You seem to indicate Bacula is reliable and mature enough to be used in suc= h a "life threatening lol" situation. I'll read more on it and try to figur= e out if my tape library would work >From there webpage, the supported autoloaders is really outdated. http://blog.bacula.org/general/supported-autochangers/ When you are referring to freebsd 4.9 with a 45G Tape, it's hard to be reas= sured and purchase equipment upfront. If I had that kind of equipment in my= lab I would test it out but unfortunately I don't (I'm talking about the L= TO6 tape library). I've posted a message on bacula's list to see if someone= have a working setup. Thanks a lot for your message. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ian Lord MSD Informatique 143 Rue des Fauvettes St-Colomban (Qu=E9bec) J5K 0E2 T=E9l: (514) 776-6734 #201 Sans Frais: 1(877) 776-6734 #201 http://www.msdi.ca/