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Date:      Mon, 29 Aug 2011 15:26:16 +0400
From:      Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru>
To:        Vadim Goncharov <vadim_nuclight@mail.ru>
Cc:        svn-src-head@FreeBSD.org, svn-src-all@FreeBSD.org, Doug Barton <dougb@FreeBSD.org>, John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r225201 - in head/sys: amd64/conf i386/conf
Message-ID:  <20110829112616.GK21676@zxy.spb.ru>
In-Reply-To: <201108291055.p7TAtY2U023372@kernblitz.nuclight.avtf.net>
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On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 05:55:33PM +0700, Vadim Goncharov wrote:

> > Not parallel ports -- plip interface
> 
> Is someone somewhere boots over a known-to-be-long-broken slow interface?

Broken? And not removed from GENERIC 9.0?

> I doubt.
>  
> >> The possible solution to this may be to have a MINIMAL kernel, also updated
> >> by freebsd-update(8), but that will double requirements for space in /boot...
> 
> > Why?
> > Only minimal kernel on installation media and large /boot/loader.conf
> > (on installation media) with all current drivers from GENERIC don't
> > double requirements for space, on the contrary, space requirements
> > reduced by reducing new GENERIC.
> 
> No. Space requirements are not reduced signinficantly because kernel always
> has all it's modules in same subdir. And if freebsd-update(8) updates, you
> have to have two kernels in /boot, both MINIMAL and GENERIC, haven't you?

No, only minimal kernel named as 'GENERIC'.

> > Next step: after install sysincstall/bsdinstall/pc-install may reduce
> > /boot/loader.conf and move some drivers to kld_list.
> 
> Sounds good, but will all-in-loader.conf sllooww down installation media
> boot considerably?

/boot/loader sllooww independent what reading -- monolithic kernel or
reduced monolithic kernel + modules. Total reading size approximately
same. So and reading time approximately same.

/boot/loader now sllooww reading big monolithic GENERIC from install CD/DVD.




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