From owner-svn-src-all@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 29 11:26:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF3561065675; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 11:26:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slw@zxy.spb.ru) Received: from zxy.spb.ru (zxy.spb.ru [195.70.199.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DCB18FC1C; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 11:26:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slw by zxy.spb.ru with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Qxzyq-000OVn-Ht; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 15:26:16 +0400 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 15:26:16 +0400 From: Slawa Olhovchenkov To: Vadim Goncharov Message-ID: <20110829112616.GK21676@zxy.spb.ru> References: <86obzbi75n.fsf@srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org> <20110827105342.GC21676@zxy.spb.ru> <4E58D8E8.3090603@FreeBSD.org> <20110827124432.GD21676@zxy.spb.ru> <4E595447.8000104@FreeBSD.org> <20110827210448.GE21676@zxy.spb.ru> <4E595EC8.40307__41269.9701650583$1314479863$gmane$org@FreeBSD.org> <201108291032.p7TAWZ6p023254@kernblitz.nuclight.avtf.net> <20110829104050.GJ21676@zxy.spb.ru> <201108291055.p7TAtY2U023372@kernblitz.nuclight.avtf.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201108291055.p7TAtY2U023372@kernblitz.nuclight.avtf.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: slw@zxy.spb.ru X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on zxy.spb.ru); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: svn-src-head@FreeBSD.org, svn-src-all@FreeBSD.org, Doug Barton , John Baldwin Subject: Re: svn commit: r225201 - in head/sys: amd64/conf i386/conf X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 11:26:06 -0000 On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 05:55:33PM +0700, Vadim Goncharov wrote: > > Not parallel ports -- plip interface > > Is someone somewhere boots over a known-to-be-long-broken slow interface? Broken? And not removed from GENERIC 9.0? > I doubt. > > >> The possible solution to this may be to have a MINIMAL kernel, also updated > >> by freebsd-update(8), but that will double requirements for space in /boot... > > > Why? > > Only minimal kernel on installation media and large /boot/loader.conf > > (on installation media) with all current drivers from GENERIC don't > > double requirements for space, on the contrary, space requirements > > reduced by reducing new GENERIC. > > No. Space requirements are not reduced signinficantly because kernel always > has all it's modules in same subdir. And if freebsd-update(8) updates, you > have to have two kernels in /boot, both MINIMAL and GENERIC, haven't you? No, only minimal kernel named as 'GENERIC'. > > Next step: after install sysincstall/bsdinstall/pc-install may reduce > > /boot/loader.conf and move some drivers to kld_list. > > Sounds good, but will all-in-loader.conf sllooww down installation media > boot considerably? /boot/loader sllooww independent what reading -- monolithic kernel or reduced monolithic kernel + modules. Total reading size approximately same. So and reading time approximately same. /boot/loader now sllooww reading big monolithic GENERIC from install CD/DVD.