From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 29 15:53:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8371140 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 15:53:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f178.google.com (mail-ob0-f178.google.com [209.85.214.178]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8DC6F22ED for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 15:53:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f178.google.com with SMTP id ef5so678169obb.9 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 08:52:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:subject:mime-version:content-type:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references :to; bh=bMxC8CwjEN6j179q/GnMvngnd3tZDL1HNqhw0gxmGQ4=; b=ilqut2RenX+z9no28bPMZ8c+I/I5HmNRBoBE89rw9sn7H8P2KgHMt2YdYoWewomCmB C7NQ3Bs10Uyf+KiPnBi/9tnZMjg1KHPLX8arqIyddp4mja7nYvwyAs2Jl9bJlv+/bf/n epe4O2/X3gC4CjOye4dCXLrhc0bAz7czHxQENteCi7XPTgVZTo+In+vn7pXSsI9xICQ7 4E4UY/mf9iwfT9qdVGHcUsLY25kRojaZPzGY3cIvwFIZhU+b2P/0ZVHnDO3l/ATnKTQ8 9iwzk0/KzokNzVJg0t4owWgei5uM5nwWymhP3sglY6ZVUo0Y5IboM+azlIN6C8xkUdRw qQrQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkrlKGXY4cSTNYLcQA5YW3jsoHmsZ892rI2s0hobxQOtk4g+0GuQtYGfysdfbFlTAhZGF0h X-Received: by 10.182.71.82 with SMTP id s18mr3081962obu.9.1377791579361; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 08:52:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from monkey-bot.int.fusionio.com ([209.117.142.2]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id rl1sm33101341oeb.7.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 29 Aug 2013 08:52:58 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Warner Losh Subject: Re: Why are cardbus drivers cbb(4) and pccard(4) still included in GENERIC? Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Warner Losh In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 09:52:56 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <92E50FD0-1A1D-4CD2-AB73-11D1F189D12D@bsdimp.com> References: To: Kimmo Paasiala X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Cc: FreeBSD current , "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 15:53:05 -0000 On Aug 29, 2013, at 3:15 AM, Kimmo Paasiala wrote: > In reference to this FreeBSD forums post: >=20 > http://forums.freebsd.org/showpost.php?p=3D231135&postcount=3D4 >=20 > Would it be a good time to remove those from GENERIC since the > hardware they are for is becoming so seriously outdated? >=20 > There's always an option to load those drivers as modules if needed. No. It is not a good time to remove them. They aren't as out-dated as = you might think, and there's literally dozens of other devices in = GENERIC that have even less use today... Warner