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Brad Knowles wrote:
> At 4:51 PM -0700 2002/05/18, Terry Lambert wrote:
> >  Can't do a graceful shutdown without a button.
> >
> >  I actually would be uncomfortable with something that didn't have
> >  an activation sequence of some kind that didn't include something
> >  that you normally don't do (plugging/unplugging is supposed to be
> >  limited to installation and deinstallation, not activation and
> >  deactivation).
> 
>         I can't think of a VCR, DVD, or cable box that operates this way.
> All consumer electronics devices I know of are capable of losing
> power and rebooting cleanly.  Consumer electronic devices that can't
> take this sort situation simply don't survive in the business.

First, all of my DVD, VCR and other consumer electronics equipment
have power buttons.

Second, it's still *not about the device*; it's about everything
that grows to depend on the device.


> >  Actually, you don't have to do the DNS thing, if you can do the
> >  DNSUPDAT thing.  So:
> >
> >  o    Find the gateway
> >  o    Find your IP
> >  o    Find the name server from the root
> >  o    Reverse lookup your IP to get the domain name
> >  o    Use the DNS information based on your role to
> >       configure yourself
> 
>         This assumes that reverse DNS is set up correctly.  It also
> assumes that you can get through the firewall.

Yes, it does.  It assumes that you haven't intentionally flipped
the breaker to keep the plug from working.  8-).

In general, we expect these things to have been set up by a third
party, since we assume that you don't have an on-site geek.

-- Terry

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