From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 22 19:48:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89C1110656A4 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 19:48:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jb.1234abcd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5351C8FC0C for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 19:48:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obbun3 with SMTP id un3so2427443obb.13 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 12:48:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=2i3YUoD5KIR9L+IRVGjLbj0wgta2bgyArUOCuD6NsaY=; b=u/OCTGKX2ERMKzJnCEtRhEcikLr3MnSnYFvGhnZ1BSJg7DTUlQZYwMb1fGpFTa6CfQ P4LLHm4S4DzAbBruIeneFiJB6V3l5xl7YV1/QfVZmLlYBF30/OA5gONLDuEw/6NI009p /Tm2HmqywHgllMALPuHpQp/m+Fu/vg/i+k8aaJPEmc+cCFroVXBPnty0LucIG/lEaJxf EjFGWDNqBxOWTOebFpJm7vEn7qZfaVuwwztD2ADtWJCmxd7IWMGnbYt+C3eY8V1i3fNQ bTq0BDkvmjljxIH6WndknWX96ziOBSRa34zK7ARZYKzmOVlCWt2fZ+Ua/4aZW0gsr+Z6 e3aA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.7.195 with SMTP id l3mr16252741oea.75.1345664927631; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 12:48:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.61.104 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 12:48:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 21:48:47 +0200 Message-ID: From: J B To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Warning - FreeBSD (*BSD) entanglement in Linux ecosystem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 19:48:48 -0000 Hi, I think it would be useful to get familiar with what systemd is, technically and fundamentally. Here is a thread in which a knowledgeable professional questions many technical aspects of it: open this thread in one browser window (to get a nice overview of what you already read): http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2011-June/thread.html#152323 and start with the first post in another window (the reason is that tricksters tried to change the thread subject, but if you follow thr thread with "next" post you will not miss anything; be patient - there are some intermediate posts that are noice): systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :) Denys Vlasenko http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2011-June/152323.html There are important points raised: - going beyond system init replacement, systemd to be a platform for OS, together with GNOME 3 - not adhering to UNIX principles (modularity, etc) - interference with sysadmin duties/decisions to set up the system (e.g. loading modules on its own and e.g. enabling sys capabilities and protocols) - there are many other phantom reasons systemd was introduced as the next thing after the sliced bread invention, like parallelization that is not (but they sold it as if they implemented concurrency) This is just an intro ... There is much more to be questioned if you know what and care to. The author of this snake oil knows what and why he sells it. He is not a UNIX mind. One can scratch her head thinking what kind of pseudo "progress" can be sold to those goofies in Linux ecosystem, and apparently in *BSD ecosystem as well. The Slackware dev hit it exactly on the nail ! Think and enjoy it. I will eventually comment more on it later as well. jb