From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 00:03:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4564F1065673; Fri, 2 Mar 2012 00:03:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kmacybsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAE4E8FC08; Fri, 2 Mar 2012 00:03:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iahk25 with SMTP id k25so1929969iah.13 for ; Thu, 01 Mar 2012 16:03:50 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of kmacybsd@gmail.com designates 10.50.76.130 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.50.76.130; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of kmacybsd@gmail.com designates 10.50.76.130 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=kmacybsd@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=kmacybsd@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.50.76.130]) by 10.50.76.130 with SMTP id k2mr6773748igw.22.1330646630369 (num_hops = 1); Thu, 01 Mar 2012 16:03:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=kzTX++I0LTVg7SOToLhoHX9nWX3wU21PLqx78FbMsGU=; b=GeE9uf+uUiMnfqezw/mC/NTv4GacfHhul5+8PbCFssgi0NYdyOquZYknGOybSJFPjs /ImVISabj+8WmFSCxvosGjbgq3ulXTl/q/tr1T8uEKs5HwKFw280Yby5CMpkRH2edRUx X3hOByP50W6FG8RzQMzeWKVEfpCPXPex2a+IIVB7K5ArmoH/jcvENZ8TFoldklnIl2eV RQdq59NYwrQCdSywKd4T+6+qTUs7Q3RQOMJtoET5G+6veE/hsKnM2YYY+gER8lF+7TCi iOBfsZeIYf/kqcW5pDRfDSGTpyYFcTE7gp69tDd9Yqe6fou4whkXcgHOR7M/jiRLvzBU jlaQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.76.130 with SMTP id k2mr5550140igw.22.1330646630305; Thu, 01 Mar 2012 16:03:50 -0800 (PST) Sender: kmacybsd@gmail.com Received: by 10.50.134.106 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Mar 2012 16:03:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4F500BB9.4040307@FreeBSD.org> References: <20120221143537.Horde.deyFDZjmRSRPQ52pxBIpnLA@webmail.leidinger.net> <4F4BA707.5070608@wasikowski.net> <4F4C3FE7.3040802@FreeBSD.org> <4F4D51CB.2010508@FreeBSD.org> <4F4D5E5D.9040302@FreeBSD.org> <4F4DD288.5060106@FreeBSD.org> <4F4ED889.2070608@FreeBSD.org> <4F500BB9.4040307@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 01:03:50 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: mxpvkgaL8LsVi87RMzQ2xVdcHzE Message-ID: From: "K. Macy" To: Doug Barton Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: stable@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org, Steve Wills , =?ISO-8859-2?Q?z_W=B1sikowski?= , Arnaud Lacombe , Alexander Leidinger , "Bjoern A. Zeeb" Subject: Re: flowtable usable or not X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2012 00:03:51 -0000 > Yes, that was part of it. On the web and db systems we had what I can > only describe as "general wackiness" with systems suddenly becoming > unreachable, etc. This was with a moderately complex network setup with > a combination of different VLANs, multiple interfaces, etc. The FreeBSD > routers would just plain panic on a semi-regular interval. Removing > flowtable made all this go away, and we've been quite stable since then. > I understand the switch. Uptime is important in any production network. However, it seems like it may have been too easy to turn it off because no one has made any effort to help me debug the issues. By analogy your guidance for ports usability problems would be to install Ubuntu. Cheers