From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Nov 5 10:26:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA27228 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 10:26:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers) Received: from sos.freebsd.dk (sos.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA27215 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 10:26:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sos@sos.freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by sos.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.7.3) id TAA04134; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 19:26:01 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199711051826.TAA04134@sos.freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: Can a PII & a P6 coexist ??? In-Reply-To: <91DD7FDA88E4D011BED00000C0DD87E7124C39@pds-gateway.pdspc.com> from Kenny Hanson at "Nov 5, 97 11:16:08 am" To: khanson@pdspc.com (Kenny Hanson) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 19:26:01 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG From: Søren Schmidt Reply-to: sos@FreeBSD.dk X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In reply to Kenny Hanson who wrote: > I've never heard of those kinds of adapters... Intel has a pretty tight > lock on Slot 1 technology (i.e. against the law to reverse engineer) > so I can't imagine that anybody > would be able to engineer a socket8 to slot1 adapter. Of course, I > could be wrong :-) Go look at www.tyan.com & www.asus.com, and you will see that they exist, I've even had one in my hand (don't know what make it was though) > I'm not 100% positive on this, but my guesstimate is no dice. Slot 1 is > completely > different than Socket 8 and requires a whole different kind of wiring; > different > control lines and data lines to the 440LX (AGP Set). You'd have to > design a whole > new chipset to handle the different processors. Nope, not exactly, the PII was first used with the 440FX (natoma) P6 chipset, and that works.. I havn't looked at the specs though, but given the extremely simple layout of the Socket8->Slot1 adapters, I'd say Intel just took the P6 pinout and put it on an edge connector instead, well, more or less. As I see it, Slot 1 was not made due to technical/egineering problems, its just sheer marketing (remember the 486SX & 487SX story some years ago), and its lots cheaper to produce... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end ..