From owner-freebsd-smp Fri Jul 9 13:15: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from gemini.bnc.net (gemini.bnc.net [195.247.233.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17F7914D92 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 13:14:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ap@bnc.net) Received: (from ap@localhost) by gemini.bnc.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA77794; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 22:15:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ap) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 22:15:27 +0200 From: Achim Patzner To: Julian Elischer Cc: Marc van Kempen , Gregory Sutter , Matthew Dillon , freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SMP comparisons Message-ID: <19990709221527.D17869@bnc.net> References: <199907091036.MAA03701@bowtie.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Julian Elischer on Fri, Jul 09, 1999 at 12:43:25PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Jul 09, 1999 at 12:43:25PM -0700, Julian Elischer wrote: > Basically there are two major groups of people in core as far as I can see > on this issue.. those who rabidly don't want Matt to get commit privs. Sometimes I'm wondering who "the core" is anyway. But I just finished rereading Dan Simmon's four Hyperion books. I guess Matt should stop working for some weeks and read them too, just for the fun of it and watching the holy core getting kicked around. > They give many excuses but in my opinion the real reason is that they > don't feel qualified to clean up after him if something goes wrong and are > afraid that it might come to that, and those who have less strong feelings > but don't want to go against those with strong feelings. Applying all I learnt in a number of psychology classes I'd say they are scared that he might be better. > In my opinion almost everything else you hear is an excuse. Excuses? I'm more and more getting the impression of little local tyrants jealously guarding their territory. The last time this happened we suddenly had FreeBSD. Sorry - the last time this happened we gained yet another *BSD called OpenBSD. Great. I like this Balkanization. Instead of tackling the problems with enough manpower every wheel has to be invented at least thrice. And if the core is going on like this we'l probavly get yab. > The main motivating factor for those who have strong feeling in the matter > is fear. Either fear that -current will be destabilised (Well DUH, > Helloooo, It's -current...) or fear that Matt will be a divisive > influence. (go figure) I'd second the second. And I guess the should ask themselves why people are running -current on production machines... Achim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message