Date: 07 Jul 2003 23:08:51 +0000 From: Stacey Roberts <stacey@vickiandstacey.com> To: Edmund Craske <edmund@m00is.net>, FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Cc: freebsduk <freebsd-users@uk.freebsd.org> Subject: RE: Changed ISP now can't get to websites / traceroute Message-ID: <1057619330.349.232.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <000401c344db$a72aea40$ac64033e@m00is.net> References: <000401c344db$a72aea40$ac64033e@m00is.net>
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Hi Edmund, On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 23:01, Edmund Craske wrote: > Argh! I'm always the last to put it down to the dreaded i word, but... > INCOMPETENCE! > Err.., okay :-) > That is all. > Ed > Found out that MS Windows actually uses ICMP for traceroute, whereas FreeBSD (et al) go with UDP. I've also turned off ipfw on one of the FBSD boxes and I still can't even traceroute to the router! So at the end.., I've resigned myself to emailing Zen on how they're handling UDP ports 33434-33500 within their fabric. I can't see anything else I can do here with respect to setting up the FBSD boxes., if even with ipfw set to allow by default, I still can't even traceroute the (Zen-purchased) router. Regards, Stacey > -----Original Message----- > From: freebsd-users-admin@uk.freebsd.org > [mailto:freebsd-users-admin@uk.freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Stacey Roberts > Sent: 07 July 2003 22:45 > To: jfm@blueyonder.co.uk > Cc: freebsduk; FreeBSD Questions > Subject: Re: Changed ISP now can't get to websites / traceroute > > > Hello, > > On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 21:20, John Murphy wrote: > > Stacey Roberts <stacey@vickiandstacey.com> wrote: > > > > >Well., that's the story they're feeding me now. Something to do with > > >the fact that its a new range?????? > > > > Hmm. Looking at the headers of your post you seem to have an address > > in the previously bogus 82/8 range. These were only made available to > > > RIPE circa November 2002 and some operators have been slow to update > > their ACLs. My ISP has acquired a whole range of these and forced one > > > on me, so I know what problems they can cause. > > > > >Really pisses me off this.., I'm quite fond of the FreeBSDforums > > >site, one of the best *bsd-related forum site I've come across.., > > >too. > > > > I can't get to http://www.freebsdforums.org/ either! > > > > Sorry but.., AT LAST!!!!!! I'm not going crazy.., and it might be that > there's some sanity to what Zen is telling me? > > > The temporary fix for me is to use the ISP's web-cache :( > > > > No such option for me :-( > > > Here's a traceroute from here (in case it helps): > > > > traceroute to vail.edry.com (207.174.189.161), 64 hops max, 44 byte > > packets 1 10.48.128.1 (10.48.128.1) 11.499 ms 14.670 ms 9.454 ms > > > 2 gsr01-tf.blueyonder.co.uk (62.31.176.161) 28.402 ms 9.319 ms > > 9.155 ms 3 172.18.4.41 (172.18.4.41) 8.951 ms 18.224 ms 12.685 ms > > > 4 kno-rab-wol-pos.telewest.net (194.117.136.49) 23.042 ms 24.131 ms > > > 40.047 ms 5 tele2-kno-rab-pos.telewest.net (194.117.136.70) 18.752 > > ms 37.390 ms 28.197 ms 6 zcr1-so-5-0-0.Londonlnt.cw.net > > (166.63.222.37) 50.513 ms 19.658 ms 19.770 ms 7 > > dcr2-loopback.Chicago.cw.net (208.172.2.100) 119.590 ms 111.810 ms > > 116.965 ms 8 agr4-so-6-0-0.Chicago.cw.net (208.175.10.158) 128.898 > > ms 138.911 ms 113.668 ms 9 acr2.Denver.cw.net (208.172.162.62) > > 152.239 ms 162.933 ms 145.562 ms 10 internap.Denver.cw.net > > (208.172.161.178) 155.267 ms 155.384 ms 160.362 ms 11 > > border10.ge3-0-bbnet2.den.pnap.net (216.52.40.79) 155.735 ms 160.266 > > > ms 158.363 ms 12 coop-2.border10.den.pnap.net (216.52.42.118) > > 133.003 ms 134.785 ms 134.697 ms 13 199.45.130.33 (199.45.130.33) > > 138.747 ms 147.327 ms 135.144 ms 14 * > > border-to-141-netrack.boulder.co.coop.net (207.174.144.178) 139.951 > > ms !X * 15 border-to-141-netrack.boulder.co.coop.net > > (207.174.144.178) 136.281 ms !X * * 16 > > border-to-141-netrack.boulder.co.coop.net (207.174.144.178) 159.470 > > ms !X * 137.951 ms !X > > Note here that you don't appear to actually *get* to freebsdforums' IP: > >From nslookup for freebsdforums.org : > Non-authoritative answer: > Name: freebsdforums.org > Address: 207.174.189.161 > > I'm trying to force Zen to increase their efforts in doing whatever > they're able to do for me, but its a nightmare getting through to tech > support to even begin that process.., > > For now, I'm trying to google around for what I might need to do in > order that I can get traceroute to work for my *nix boxes here.., > > Thanks again for that.., > > Regards, > > Stacey -- Stacey Roberts B.Sc (HONS) Computer Science Web: www.vickiandstacey.com
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