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Date:      Mon, 18 Apr 2011 13:59:45 -0600
From:      Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        Doug Barton <dougb@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        src-committers@FreeBSD.org, Pawel Jakub Dawidek <pjd@FreeBSD.org>, Roman Divacky <rdivacky@FreeBSD.org>, Dimitry Andric <dim@FreeBSD.org>, svn-src-head@FreeBSD.org, svn-src-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r220755 - in head: . contrib/gcc/doc contrib/gcc/objc contrib/libobjc etc/mtree gnu/lib gnu/lib/libobjc gnu/usr.bin/cc gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools gnu/usr.bin/cc/doc s...
Message-ID:  <92422863-8655-4FDE-A1E9-5EE1F46DA5BC@bsdimp.com>
In-Reply-To: <4DAC8060.2070002@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <201104172103.p3HL3Ntb049564@svn.freebsd.org> <20110418070124.GA67934@freebsd.org> <8204A257-C8F6-4DCA-99EC-BE48BD9C84E7@bsdimp.com> <20110418181456.GB3097@garage.freebsd.pl> <4DAC8060.2070002@FreeBSD.org>

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On Apr 18, 2011, at 12:18 PM, Doug Barton wrote:

> On 04/18/2011 11:14, Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 11:06:42AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
>>>=20
>>> On Apr 18, 2011, at 1:01 AM, Roman Divacky wrote:
>>>=20
>>>> please mark this in src/UPDATING, maybe bump freebsd_version too?
>>>=20
>>> Please do not bump freebsd_version just for this.  Ports wishing to =
know can go off the last bump, if there are any.
>>>=20
>>> Every freebsd_version bump forces rebuilding all modules and such =
and is a pita.
>>=20
>> I agree that this is a PITA, but there also should be a way to force
>> module load even on version bump. This is PITA especially for
>> developers.
>=20
> .... who make up a tiny percentage of the FreeBSD user community. =
Seriously? We're going to whine because version bumps cause a little =
extra compile time?

The problem usually manifests itself when I got to debug a new problem, =
load a driver and find I have to rebuild everything else to use it, =
which forces an extra reboot on the machine in question.  Sometimes this =
can be quite disruptive to other things that machine is doing.

In this case, there was a new kernel thing just after, so it turned out =
OK.  But let's not gratuitously bump the version since the granularity =
we have already allows the ports to make good choices on when to leave =
something in or out.

Warner




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