From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 14 10:44:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29F8316A41C; Thu, 14 Jul 2005 10:44:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from mail.qubesoft.com (gate.qubesoft.com [217.169.36.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 583CE43D48; Thu, 14 Jul 2005 10:44:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from [192.168.1.254] (dhcp254.qubesoft.com [192.168.1.254]) by mail.qubesoft.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j6EAiTuL040682; Thu, 14 Jul 2005 11:44:29 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) In-Reply-To: <200507142006.54726.B.Wildermoth@griffith.edu.au> References: <200507131933.12318.B.Wildermoth@griffith.edu.au> <200507140743.11021.B.Wildermoth@griffith.edu.au> <200507141007.51665.dfr@nlsystems.com> <200507142006.54726.B.Wildermoth@griffith.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v733) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <155B452C-1BEE-4857-B3E0-256BDDBE5FF0@nlsystems.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Doug Rabson Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 11:44:26 +0100 To: Brett Wildermoth X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.733) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on mail.qubesoft.com X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.86.1, clamav-milter version 0.86 on mail.qubesoft.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Kenneth Culver , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD64 + Nvidia Display Card X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 10:44:34 -0000 On 14 Jul 2005, at 11:06, Brett Wildermoth wrote: > On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 07:07 pm, owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org wrote: > >> On Wednesday 13 July 2005 22:43, Brett Wildermoth wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 04:18 am, owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Wednesday 13 July 2005 10:26 am, Kenneth Culver wrote: >>>> >>>>> Quoting Brett Wildermoth : >>>>> >>>>>> To all my fellow FreeBSD users, >>>>>> >>>>>> I assume I am not the only one who is in this predicament. I >>>>>> have just bought seven AMD 64s with NVIDIA PCI-X graphics. With >>>>>> 5.4 I can get everything bar the network and X to work, with >>>>>> 6.0 I can get the network to work also. However no matter what >>>>>> I do I can't get X to work. >>>>>> >>>>>> Why doesn't NVIDIA make a graphics driver for FreeBSD AMD64. >>>>>> They make one for >>>>>> Linux x86-64 and one for FreeBSD-x86. >>>>>> >>>>>> Perhaps would could all post a message on nvforum. I see some >>>>>> people already have..... >>>>>> >>>>>> Perhaps NVIDIA think FreeBSD is just a hobby OS...... >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Last I heard, nvidia had no plans to make a FreeBSD amd64 driver. >>>>> Just post that >>>>> you're pissed about it like the rest of us are... maybe they'll >>>>> reconsider. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Not true. FreeBSD's kernel doesn't provide some things needed for >>>> an amd64 driver to be feasible. >>>> >>> >>> Like what???? what are these features? and if they are really >>> important why aren't they on the cards to be included into >>> FreeBSD...... >>> >> >> There are a few missing VM features that any high-performance >> graphics >> card driver would require for decent performance with PCI Express. >> John >> is working on adding those features - have patience. >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current- >> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > I guess these feature are provided in FreeBSD x86, as a NVIDIA > graphics driver > is available for FreeBSD x86. Is FreeBSD x86-64 VM subsystem > different to > FreeBSD x86. Is the VM subsystem that low-level????? > > (Pardon my ignorance, have quite got around to reading the FreeBSD > kernel book > the publisher comped me yet) Actually I think that the feature we are talking about (PAT) is relevant to both amd64 and i386. Proper support for PAT is required for decent PCI Express performance, as I understand it.