From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 21:28:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B483F16A4CE; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 21:28:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1463243D1F; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 21:28:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-b181.otenet.gr [212.205.244.189]) i7MLSmrT014299; Mon, 23 Aug 2004 00:28:48 +0300 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i7MLRPkw040921; Mon, 23 Aug 2004 00:27:25 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i7MLRPlS040920; Mon, 23 Aug 2004 00:27:25 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 00:27:25 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Murray Stokely Message-ID: <20040822212725.GA40449@gothmog.gr> References: <20040822161153.GB68929@gothmog.gr> <20040822182540.GF49057@abigail.blackend.org> <20040822190754.GA96470@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040822190754.GA96470@hub.freebsd.org> Phone: +30-2610-312145 Mobile: +30-6944-116520 cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The daemon is not a religious symbol, but... X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 21:28:51 -0000 On 2004-08-22 19:07, Murray Stokely wrote: > On Sun, Aug 22, 2004 at 08:25:40PM +0200, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > > Maybe if someone could clean, rewrite in better english my words above, > > it'd be a start of "explaination." > > It wouldn't be a start; we've been trying to explain this in our > website and documentation for years. This quote is on our website: Yeah, I know :-) I wasn't talking about documenting *what* the daemon image is but about documenting the way to disable its appearance during boot time. Perhaps I didn't make myself as clear as I thought. > It's our problem if they keep nagging us. =) I like the way OpenBSD > just went in the direction of a new mascot with less negative > conotations and a cooler more modern design to boot. It's a lot > easier to do that sort of thing when you split off from another > project though. I fully agree. A company spends a lot of money to "reeducate the masses" about their logos, their characteristics signs and any other thing that can be considered a public relations asset. Changing the logo of an existing project is a very bad move, IMHO. New projects do, of course, have the luxury of picking their new logos :-) Anyway, I don't mean this to be yet another revival of the dirty old thread. It just felt like asking if this particular detail of the boot loader should or should not be documented somewhere.