Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 23:27:42 +0100 From: Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@freebsd.org> To: Niclas Zeising <niclas.zeising@gmail.com> Cc: cvs-doc@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org, Johann Kois <jkois@freebsd.org>, doc-committers@freebsd.org, Marc Fonvieille <blackend@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/security chapter.sgml Message-ID: <20061113222742.GB1634@kobe.laptop> In-Reply-To: <45578E57.3070006@gmail.com> References: <200611120013.kAC0D5GM097268@repoman.freebsd.org> <200611121144.28895.jkois@freebsd.org> <4556FE2A.1080501@n00b.apagnu.se> <20061112111431.GA84563@abigail.blackend.org> <20061112182751.GB834@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <20061112190008.GA7008@kobe.laptop> <45578E57.3070006@gmail.com>
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On 2006-11-12 22:12, Niclas Zeising <niclas.zeising@gmail.com> wrote: >Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >>On 2006-11-13 05:27, Peter Jeremy <peterjeremy@optushome.com.au> wrote: >>>On Sun, 2006-Nov-12 12:14:31 +0100, Marc Fonvieille wrote: >>>> SSH is the protocol, and ssh is the application/program (so >>>> <application></application> or <command></command> according to the >>>> situation). >>> >>> To be pedantic, the application is OpenSSH. >> >> Well, right now, yes. But it is "a member of the family of applications >> which implement the `SSH' protocol". I am not saying that this can >> actually happen real soon now, but if OpenSSH doesn't work the way we >> want it to work, it is possible that our <application>SSH</application> >> in a few years will be <application>FooSSH</application>. >> >> When the 'Open' part of 'OpenSSH' is important, it is obligatory that >> we mention and make it stand out (if not for any other reason, as a form >> of our appreciation for the work of the OpenSSH folks). But when we >> talk about the 'SSH' protocol in general, do we really have to do so? > > This chapter, as far as I can tell, talks about SSH in general, as > Giorgos stated. There is another chapter talking about OpenSSH in > particular, and in that chapter OpenSSH is used when talking about the > application. Excellent! I'm glad we got that straight :) So, Niclas, just to get this thread directed towards a more productive closure, in a previous post of yours you wrote: % Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 12:22:53 +0100 % From: Niclas Zeising <lothrandil@n00b.apagnu.se> % Subject: Re: cvs commit: % doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/security chapter.sgml % To: Marc Fonvieille <blackend@freebsd.org> % CC: Johann Kois <jkois@freebsd.org>, doc-committers@freebsd.org, % Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@freebsd.org>, cvs-all@freebsd.org, % cvs-doc@freebsd.org % % Okay. I'll do an overhaul of the security chapter and see if I can make % some sort of progress regarding consistency between, SSH, ssh and so on, % using SSH for the protocol, and <application>ssh</application> or % <command>ssh</command> depending on the situation. Should we expect a patch for the <application>SSH</application> stuff? If you are going to work on this, it would be nice to know, so we avoid duplication of work by 2 or more prople for the same relatively trivial change. - Giorgos
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