From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 22 6: 8:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 986CE37B400; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 06:08:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.svzserv.kemerovo.su (www.svzserv.kemerovo.su [213.184.65.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD78C43E4A; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 06:08:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eugen@www.svzserv.kemerovo.su) Received: from www.svzserv.kemerovo.su (eugen@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.svzserv.kemerovo.su (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7MD8gie007634; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 21:08:42 +0800 (KRAST) (envelope-from eugen@www.svzserv.kemerovo.su) Received: (from eugen@localhost) by www.svzserv.kemerovo.su (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7MD8gtu007633; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 21:08:42 +0800 (KRAST) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 21:08:42 +0800 From: Eugene Grosbein To: "Brian J. McGovern" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, qa@FreeBSD.ORG, docs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Upcoming 4.7-RELEASE: unresolved issue Message-ID: <20020822210842.A6944@svzserv.kemerovo.su> References: <3D64CC1B.58680655@svzserv.kemerovo.su> <200208221251.g7MCpMJc017651@spoon.beta.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200208221251.g7MCpMJc017651@spoon.beta.com>; from mcgovern@spoon.beta.com on Thu, Aug 22, 2002 at 08:51:22AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Aug 22, 2002 at 08:51:22AM -0400, Brian J. McGovern wrote: > I somewhat disagree with this as a bug. May be so. Anyway, ethernet was not mandatory in 4.4-RELEASE for pure PPP operations. > AFAIK, "ether" is the base Ethernet > subsystem, and it has always been needed for DUMMYNET, No. I used my home dialup machine with DUMMYNET from 3.2-R to 4.4-R without ether in my kernel. I do not insist that this dependancy must be removed but it must be documented at least. > as well as for PPP > (and most other networking). As a matter of fact, DUMMYNET also depends on > most of the IPFW firewall code being in, too. It needs IPFW for sure but it did not need ether. > A system without the ether pseudo-device is pretty useless, networking wise. Think of PPP-only networking. Eugene Grosbein To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message