From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 12 02:26:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DF6916A468 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 02:26:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from user0@tkgeomap.org) Received: from eastrmmtao106.cox.net (eastrmmtao106.cox.net [68.230.240.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A970513C458 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 02:26:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from user0@tkgeomap.org) Received: from eastrmimpo03.cox.net ([68.1.16.126]) by eastrmmtao106.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20080212022631.KAPK20005.eastrmmtao106.cox.net@eastrmimpo03.cox.net> for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2008 21:26:31 -0500 Received: from localhost.my.domain ([68.97.41.207]) by eastrmimpo03.cox.net with bizsmtp id oSR61Y00U4UAjD80000000; Mon, 11 Feb 2008 21:25:07 -0500 Received: from localhost.my.domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1C2Qo6U025460 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2008 20:26:50 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from user0@tkgeomap.org) Received: (from tkgeomap@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m1C2QoQX025459 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 11 Feb 2008 20:26:50 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from user0@tkgeomap.org) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: tkgeomap set sender to user0@tkgeomap.org using -f Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 20:26:50 -0600 From: Gordon devel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080212022650.GA25334@localhost.ok.cox.net> References: <47AFC80B.8090303@gmail.com> <20080211211052.X5691@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <47B0AF73.6030901@chuckr.org> <200802112304.09906.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> <20080211211428.GA50577@aleph.cepheid.org> <20080211223155.C6199@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <47B0CDA1.9060801@student.utwente.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47B0CDA1.9060801@student.utwente.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: Re: what happened to linuxflashplugin? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 02:26:32 -0000 On Mon, Feb 11, 2008 at 10:35:13PM +0000, Alphons Fonz van Werven wrote: > Wojciech Puchar cut a corner: > > I'm afraid it's not that simple. Counterexample: > > When I was shopping for a new parachute rig, one of the manufacturers I was > interested in turned out to have a Flash-only website. I could of course > have decided not to buy there because their website sucks, but when it > comes to equipment that's supposed to be going to save my life hundreds of > times I'd much rather base the decision on the quality of the product than > on the technical soundness of a website, thank you :-) > > I don't mean to ridicule your principles, I merely mean to point out that > in my opinion it's not always as black and white as you make it seem. > Tell the vendor. I wanted to shop at a web site (wickers.com), but it was useless without Flash. I sent an email saying I wanted to place an order, but I could not view their site. It was fixed enough to be functional the next day, and I placed an order. They "re-launched" the site several weeks later. It still recommends, but does not demand, Flash. I do not know if the changes were a response to complaints, but I think complaining was worthwhile. Cheers, Gordon