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Date:      Wed, 5 Sep 2001 16:23:23 +0100
From:      "Lawrence Farr" <l.farr@epcdirect.co.uk>
To:        "'Doug Hardie'" <bc979@lafn.org>
Cc:        "'Greg Lehey'" <grog@FreeBSD.ORG>, "'Lawrence Farr'" <lawrence@epcdirect.co.uk>, "'David Gilbert'" <dgilbert@velocet.ca>, "'Chris BeHanna'" <behanna@zbzoom.net>, "'FreeBSD-Stable'" <stable@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   RE: [stable] Re: RAID5
Message-ID:  <003401c1361e$b52bf440$c80aa8c0@lfarr>
In-Reply-To: <f04330116b7bbe195e610@[10.0.1.100]>

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Errr. No. One's read ones write.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Doug Hardie [mailto:bc979@lafn.org] 
>Sent: 05 September 2001 15:16
>To: Lawrence Farr
>Cc: 'Greg Lehey'; 'Lawrence Farr'; 'David Gilbert'; 'Chris 
>BeHanna'; 'FreeBSD-Stable'
>Subject: RE: [stable] Re: RAID5
>
>
>At 9:26 +0100 9/5/01, Lawrence Farr wrote:
>>I did these tests in response to a recent thread on hardware (look for
>>"3ware stuff not ready for heavy duty useage").
>>
>>  >On Tuesday,  4 September 2001 at 13:52:02 +0100, Lawrence 
>Farr wrote:
>>>>  Just to add another benchmark, I got:
>>>>
>>>>  Pass 23 - 1048576 kb written in 115 seconds, at 9118 kb/Sec
>>>>  Pass 23 - 1048576 kb read in 15 seconds, at 69905 kb/Sec
>>>
>>>This shows there's a big difference.  Which is which?  What is it
>>  >really doing here?
>
>Perhaps some experiences I had with several years running large RAID 
>5 systems may be of help.  I used a RAID 5 configuration where each 
>bay had 7 disks for striping and parity data.  The 8th disk was a 
>fast-write/recovery disk.  If all the drives were working correctly 
>then writes to the system were first written to the fast-write drive 
>and the I/O terminated.  The RAID system then distributed the 
>information to the 7 data disks.  If the fast-write disk was not 
>full, then this ran a little faster than read speed.
>
>However, we frequently did large Oracle tablespace initializations. 
>Generally all 7 disks were used for the tablespace.  We were able to 
>monitor disk usage on all the drives plus the line from the computer 
>to the RAID system.  During the first few minutes,  all the drives 
>(fast-write and data) would be running a 100%.  The line from the 
>computer to the RAID system was operating at very close to 100%. 
>However, after just short of 2 GB transfered (the size of the 
>fast-write disk), the line to the RAID dropped to zero transfers.  It 
>would stay at zero for about 10 minutes.  Then a few blocks would be 
>transferred and back to sleep.  It continued like this till the 
>tablespace was initialized.  The average line utilization was very 
>low.  The disk utilization was at 100%.
>
>Writes to the fast-write disk are fast.  Distributing the information 
>the RAID 5 way to multiple disks is slower and hence the RAID system 
>bottlenecked and quit accepting data from the host.  It had no place 
>to put it until the fast-write disk had been processed.  While the 
>information above is not complete enough to say for sure, it looks 
>like thats what occurred in that test.
>-- 
>-- Doug
>


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