From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 2 23:18:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFC39AF6 for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2012 23:18:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bdysonsmith@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f180.google.com (mail-wi0-f180.google.com [209.85.212.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E65728FC0C for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2012 23:18:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f180.google.com with SMTP id hj13so729730wib.13 for ; Sun, 02 Dec 2012 15:18:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Ha9aCMLvtSSwzQmocHCKFj9PaBFwGVjx1i79BIrpX6k=; b=pSpxH58ie+27YjR1o4jJPhx68dpVQGEpQhTnHDR8kwBRVll9IcrQflUnfXLNk+CfeA zRrRMM6Cp6cVUhBj6l6nTvmB0JfiWxkrQC7Bpx0VCHx3UpRRwNWDXU6aGizFO+2MG+/5 PxF15l8LIA3eQvNw8GxDuJduHJjo/zCifmS6fHOK/xTzJbCDxHxd9TLlmlVBxElJRgBB agLjUHznzyYxZgJVlNk2YzXGmAhbb+QIAR0p8GAm5EE6IIJXOCZzZoVTK6n+FRVZJdgF yXtDR8O0uLUKjugYjXg7+aQhGASyCaHbZZu0n4Fqp3vVL3XJ4qqOiV+NuECOdg82klUm LwAA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.30.16 with SMTP id j16mr2542949wea.42.1354490280497; Sun, 02 Dec 2012 15:18:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.54.8 with HTTP; Sun, 2 Dec 2012 15:18:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 18:18:00 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: IdeaPad Y580 Laptop - 59359513 - Dawn Gray From: Bridger Dyson-Smith To: Eitan Adler Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: mobile@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2012 23:18:07 -0000 On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Eitan Adler wrote: > On 2 December 2012 15:08, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Eitan Adler > wrote: > >> On 2 December 2012 14:31, Warren Block wrote: > >>> X will only work if the dual-graphics mode can be disabled. > >> > >> And this is a BIOS feature which isn't guaranteed to exist? > > > > It is not, but as far as I know, it is available on all prior ThinkPads. > > I've been told this can't be disabled on newer nvidia cards so now > this isn't an option anymore. > > Now I'm just looking for a generic laptop with > > - working wifi > - working Xorg w/ non VESA graphics > - useful for development (8GB+ ram, core i5+) > > Have you considered a slightly older model of Thinkpad? Finding the processor model you want, and a limit of 8GB RAM (possibly) may make this not to your liking. Older X* and T* models seem to be well represented on Ebay, & Thinkwiki [1] has helped me identify peculiarities from model to model. If you want new hardware, have you considered ZaReason or System76? While Linux-centric, they at least seem to combine hardware with OS in mind. I'm sorry that I don't have a specific model to recommend - personally, I would love to be able to find a lightly used Thinkpad X201s but there don't seem to be any available. I'll make do with this old X61. -- > Eitan Adler Good luck! Bridger