From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Feb 3 14:48:33 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA09048 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 14:48:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gamma.aei.ca (gamma.aei.ca [206.123.6.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA09034 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 14:48:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from malartre@aei.ca) Received: from aei.ca (ppp-111-27.mtl.aei.ca [207.107.111.27]) by gamma.aei.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA24419; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 17:47:59 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36B8D1DF.DBBDEFB7@aei.ca> Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 17:46:55 -0500 From: Malartre X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Allen Campbell CC: Terry Lambert , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: On Desktops and defaults References: <199902021904.MAA07243@usr05.primenet.com> <36B7E152.8C1364FC@verinet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Allen Campbell wrote: > > Rely on the meritocracy here; If someone 'out there' can put together a > decent Blackbox or WindowMaker desktop which a consensus of FreeBSD can > live with, more power to 'em. The work should be a peer with anything > else offered to the user, KDE or otherwise. The port/packages system is > already flexible enough to deal with this. Standards should be suitably > high however. > > -- > Allen Campbell | Lurking at the bottom of the > allenc@verinet.com | gravity well, getting old. > I don't really see why you need to put app by default. The user simply need to try the port collection if he need something. Anyway, he _will_ need an application wich is not in your default window manager, so he will try to use the ports. I think the only thing FreeBSD need is a nice window manager installed by default. "Do you want to install Blackbox, the default FreeBSD window manager?" Blackbox would be the better choice. It's incredibly fast, stable, nice etc.. http://www.cnet.com/Content/Reviews/Compare/AltOS/ss04.html "Out of the box, FreeBSD isn't nearly as pretty as Red Hat Linux." ... A default window manager, and a doc on how to use the port collection that pop-up after the first start of Xwindow would be nice to. "Welcome to FreeBSD. You are currently using X-Window and Blackbox. If you need applications, use the Port Collections, a ..." The first time I installed freebsd, I did not want it to install me any app that I did not need. For a blackbox screenshot: http://www.aei.ca/~malartre/freebsd/graphic/blackbox.jpg Blackbox home page. http://blackbox.wiw.org/ Thank You -- [Malartre][malartre@aei.ca][French piss me off - Cartman, South Park] [The FreeBSD User Guide][http://www.aei.ca/~malartre/freebsd/] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message