From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 14 19:11:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA26015 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 19:11:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp4.nwnexus.com (smtp4.nwnexus.com [206.63.63.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA26009 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 19:11:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wrsomsky@halcyon.com) Received: from gramarye (evt-lx100-ip38.nwnexus.net [204.57.235.38]) by smtp4.nwnexus.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA31787; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 19:10:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wrsomsky@localhost) by gramarye (8.8.8/8.8.7) id TAA00508; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 19:04:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wrsomsky) From: "William R. Somsky" Message-Id: <199803150304.TAA00508.gramarye.wrsomsky@halcyon.com> Subject: Re: Help! Upgrade 2.2.5-RELEASE to 2.2-STABLE. In-Reply-To: from Annelise Anderson at "Mar 14, 98 05:25:03 pm" To: andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu (Annelise Anderson) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 19:04:16 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > From: Annelise Anderson > > I think I'm trying to say that the information on *how to get* the > latest errata and any special build instructions (or whatever) needs > to arrive with the goods; one can't expect people to pick up this > information in some other place--on some newsgroup or mailing list. > > At least, I think this has the best chance of reducing the repetitive > questions. > > For the cdrom sets, the brochure that goes in the package should > have a little note that says something about getting information > that became available after the cd's were made. This can be a > standard location, e.g., the location of the errata.txt file on > the web site or WC CDROM for a particular release. > > For sources obtained with cvsup, a README file that ends up in the > one directory that has to be visited (/usr/src) that either provides > information or directs the reader to information is all that's needed. > > Annelise I'll second this. I'm running a home machine and a couple at work with 2.2.5-stable -- excuse me, it's 2.2.6-beta now -- and I'm trying to follow the -stable mailing list, but there's enough there that one can easily miss something. It would be nice if there was a web-page and/or ftp-file that contained a summary of current errata, need-to-know and don't-forget information, and even just useful notes, that contained the current state of needed information. I mean, the mailing list is good for ongoing discussions about things, but its just not very good as a reference. _I'd_ use such a page. I'm trying to be a knowledgeble -stable user, but inevitably, something will go by in a discussion that I don't particularly pay attention to at the time, and then I get bitten by it later. At that point, there's not much I can do other that post a "didn't somebody say something about" message -- the mailing list archives aren't really very useful for this, even if you can figure out a seach to pick the messages relevant to the topic in questions, you get all the messages, the initial problem reports, the side comments, the why didn't we do this before, I thought we did, Linux did it long ago, NetBSD hasn't done it yet, yadda, yadda, yadda, along with the actual answer, if there is one. If we had such a "current notes" page, I know I'd use it. Now, I won't promise I'd always read it before doing a make world -- I'm not that diciplined -- but then I'd have a first place to look for info when something went wrong. And if it were well advertized, others would know to look there as well. (Sorry, I'm rambling... I'll take my medication now... *gulp*... ahh...) So, to make a long story short -- (too late) -- I think that a well advertized "current notes and errata" page for each of the branches (-release, -stable, -current) would be very useful. ________________________________________________________________________ William R. Somsky wrsomsky@halcyon.com Physicist, Baritone, Guitarist http://www.halcyon.com/wrsomsky To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message