From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Oct 7 12:10:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 795E637B401 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 12:10:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from yama.geminisolutions.com (yama.geminisolutions.com [216.57.214.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1470243E77 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 12:10:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael@staff.openaccess.org) Received: from [192.168.4.254] (internal.openaccess.org [216.57.214.120]) by yama.geminisolutions.com (8.12.3/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g97J7TPV042591; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 12:07:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael@staff.openaccess.org) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.0.0.1309 Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 12:10:13 -0700 Subject: Re: Server out of space -- Need suggestions From: Michael DeMan To: Jamie , "Lapinski, Michael (Research)" Cc: "'jeremy@cableaz.com'" , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20021007141027.H6069-100000@floyd.gnulife.org> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org One way, is to setup a very reliable disk server system and export the mail spool as NFS. This box will do nothing but dish up files. Then, plug in a couple of mail servers with dedicated 100Mbit or 1Gbit ports to that NFS box. The mail servers then mount /var/mail from the NFS server. If the NFS server goes down, you're hosed, but because its behind another layer and not directly on the internet, its not as susceptible to attack. There is some kind of BSD fail-over tool too, that brings up a second box on the IP if the first box fails. On 10/7/02 12:12 PM, "Jamie" wrote: > > > What other suggestions do you have for building a reliable mailserver? > And is there a way to set up a couple of servers so that if one goes down, > the other automatically takes over with the same mail spool if possible? > We also need to re-engineer here, and I would like to take that into > consideration. Thanks! > > > - Jamie > > > > > > > On Mon, 7 Oct 2002, Lapinski, Michael (Research) wrote: > >> >> A practice ive usually taken is to keep the dirs >> where a lot of space is used on different physical >> devices and keep them redundant (raided /var/spool). >> >> -Running a real mail server off of a 1 hard disk >> install isn't wise. (What happens when your 1 disk >> mail server loses its disk?) >> >> -keeping system bins and config on the same physical >> device with data that is constatly causing reading >> and writing to disk (new mail coming in, old mail deleting) >> isnt a good idea either. As the disks for this take >> more abuse than the disk that just has the system installed >> >> I think you need to architect a real mail server instead of >> trying to rescue what you currently have. >> >> -mtl >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> Michael Lapinski >> Computer Scientist >> GE Research >> >> >> "I think there is a world market for maybe five computers." >> - IBM Chairman Thomas Watson, 1943 >> >> >> ->-----Original Message----- >> ->From: jeremy@cableaz.com [mailto:jeremy@cableaz.com] >> ->Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 1:56 PM >> ->To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG >> ->Subject: Server out of space -- Need suggestions >> -> >> -> >> ->Quick question for anyone out there. I have a mail server >> ->that is running >> ->out of space. That being said, I have two choices... Should I >> ->backup all the >> ->necessary info, and add a bigger drive and then reload and restore, or >> ->should I add a second drive and move all the excess data to that? Any >> ->suggestions would be helpful. >> -> >> ->Thanks, >> ->JB >> -> >> -> >> ->-------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ->mail2web - Check your email from the web at >> ->http://mail2web.com/ . >> -> >> -> >> -> >> ->To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> ->with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message >> -> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message >> > > > "It's kind of fun to do the impossible." > > - Walt Disney > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > Michael F. DeMan Director of Technology OpenAccess Internet Services 1305 11th St., 3rd Floor Bellingham, WA 98225 Tel 360-647-0785 x204 Fax 360-738-9785 michael@staff.openaccess.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message