From owner-freebsd-current Sat Aug 2 14:44:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA15992 for current-outgoing; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 14:44:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unique.usn.blaze.net.au (root@unique.usn.blaze.net.au [203.17.53.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA15926; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 14:43:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unique.usn.blaze.net.au (davidn@local [127.0.0.1]) by unique.usn.blaze.net.au (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA14589; Sun, 3 Aug 1997 07:40:47 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199708022140.HAA14589@unique.usn.blaze.net.au> To: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: Michael Smith , asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami), andreas@klemm.gtn.com, ports@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports-current/packages-current discontinued In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 02 Aug 1997 20:05:18 +0200." <1773.870545118@critter.dk.tfs.com> X-Face: (W@z~5kg?"+5?!2kHP)+l369.~a@oTl^8l87|/s8"EH?Uk~P#N+Ec~Z&@;'LL!;3?y Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 07:40:47 +1000 From: David Nugent Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >In message <199708021720.DAA00921@labs.usn.blaze.net.au>, David Nugent writes: >>Just out of curiosity, why exactly was tcl8.0 *beta* added to the base >>distribution? > >Because -current is "not yet release code" and tcl8.0b2 is "almost but >not quite release code". > >That's why. Well, sure, but This isn't why I asked. What features in tcl8.0 are required for a running FreeBSD system? Why is it essential that tcl be present in the base system AT ALL? What benefits are there in tcl being present here instead of being built by the ports/packages system? >It sounds to me like a lot of people should seriously reconsider if >they ought to run -current :-( Most of the systems I maintain are 2.2. However, I do software development on -current. I already mentioned that I'm quite prepared to live with any inconveniences (and there are plenty of those) absolutely without complaint. This has nothing to do with the issues I'm raising. This change appears to be entirely gratuitous. Please correct me if I am wrong. I'd seriously like to know what the benefits are of nailing ourselves to tcl8.0 in the FreeBSD base system will yield, or in fact what benefits having tcl7.5 is already giving 2.2 systems. Why is it worth the cost, hassle and upset, particularly with respect to the ports system. What compelling reasons are there or having it there as compared with the much more cheaply maintained ports system? Enquiring minds want to know. Regards, David David Nugent - Unique Computing Pty Ltd - Melbourne, Australia davidn@freebsd.org davidn@blaze.net.au http://www.blaze.net.au/~davidn/