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Date:      Tue, 29 May 2012 02:51:23 +0800
From:      Li-Wen Hsu <lwhsu@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Ruslan Mahmatkhanov <cvs-src@yandex.ru>
Cc:        skreuzer@FreeBSD.org, zope@freebsd.org, python@freebsd.org, miwi@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: [PATCH] python2.4 removal zope and zope211 affected
Message-ID:  <CAKBkRUxb-o1a0CH1eO7Sp31ZMmfEuOe6SuJK0p5Y7CB=cqOfMg@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <4FC3B25A.2020004@yandex.ru>
References:  <20120528174458.5300cfbd.miwi@FreeBSD.org> <4FC3B25A.2020004@yandex.ru>

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Hi,

On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 1:14 AM, Ruslan Mahmatkhanov <cvs-src@yandex.ru> wr=
ote:
> Hi, Martin,
>
> Martin Wilke wrote on 28.05.2012 13:44:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Finally I'm working on to remove python 24 from the ports tree, and the
>> reasons are clear. Support was dropped by 2008, and there are a lot of
>> unpatched security holes. We have warned about this since 2 years ago,
>> and now I will really take action to drop it from the ports tree.
>
> I have no objections, but know people that do :). I ever know FreeBSD
> committer that using old zope.

I apologies jumping to conclusion too quick, and totally forget about setti=
ng
DEPRECATED thing.  I agree to set it as an official announcement, and we ca=
n
wait another month, I believe this is the final time of postpone.

> We have only three ports, that wish exactly python 2.4 version:
>
> net/honeyd (skreuzer@FreeBSD.org)
> www/zope =C2=A0 (estartu@augusta.de)
> www/zope211 (estartu@augusta.de)

miwi has written a mail to estartu@augusta.de, I am not sure about if
skreuzer (CC'd)
know this plan.

www/zope and www/zope211 can also be set deprecated, how about net/honeyd?
can it work with newer Python?  I looked at the project site, it seems move=
d to
somewhere else.

> And only one port that depends on exact 2.5 version:
>
> www/google-appengine (nivit@FreeBSD.org)

I think we don't have a exact plan to remove 2.5 currently, do we?

> I prefer to remove both of python24 and python25 because they both EOL. B=
ut
> I'd still set them all to expiration period of month or two. We have such=
 a
> tradition.

I agree to remove python24, and not object to remove python25, newer
google-appengine
can run with python27 and I would like to use python27 to develop new
system, and
users have python25 apps deployed are not affected.  Is there anybody
still using
develop/maintaining systems with python25 on appengine?

>> So here is the final patch [1] that has already been reviewed by lwshu@
>> and wen@, but I would like to discuss regarding the zope ports.
>>
>> First of all I will clean up the zope version from the bsd.python.mk.
>> Now I would like to know what you guys think if I were to remove
>> www/zope and keep www/zope213. Another option is to merge www/zope213
>> to www/zope and just remove www/zope211 and www/zope213 completely.
>> What do you think about this?
>>
>> Thanks Martin
>>
>> [1]
>> http://miwifbsd.dyndns.org/patches/py24rm-3.diff
>
>
>
> Our zope213 port didn't use ZOPESKELDIR, SZOPEBASEDIR so it may look like
> this:
>
> +if ${ZOPE_VERSION} =3D=3D "2.13"
> +ZOPE_PORTSDIR=3D =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=
 ${PORTSDIR}/www/zope213
> =C2=A0.else

You are the Zope expert!

> I prefer to keep it as zope213 for some time.

We do, too.  Do you have a plan for updating www/zope to 2.13?  BTW,
what's the status of
BlueBream?

Thanks,
Li-Wen

--=20
Li-Wen Hsu
http://lwhsu.org



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