From owner-freebsd-current Fri Dec 11 00:00:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA01602 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 23:55:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from widefw.csl.sony.co.jp (widefw.csl.sony.co.jp [133.138.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA01596 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 23:55:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kjc@csl.sony.co.jp) Received: from hotaka.csl.sony.co.jp (root@hotaka.csl.sony.co.jp [43.27.98.57]) by widefw.csl.sony.co.jp (8.8.8/3.6W) with ESMTP id QAA28227; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 16:55:34 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (kjc@[127.0.0.1]) by hotaka.csl.sony.co.jp (8.8.8/3.6W/hotaka/98111120) with ESMTP id QAA10039; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 16:55:33 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199812110755.QAA10039@hotaka.csl.sony.co.jp> To: Mike Smith cc: NAKAGAWA Yoshihisa , Nathan Dorfman , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PAO Integration? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 10 Dec 1998 17:01:56 PST." <199812110101.RAA01409@dingo.cdrom.com> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 16:55:32 +0900 From: Kenjiro Cho Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Second, PAO enhanced irq-pool, dynamic irq-pool. So, pccardd get > free-irq from kernel. >> This is an example of an unacceptable solution rerettably typical to >> the PAO project - you folks are *too*narrowly*focussed* on your needs. It seems to me that the two parties don't communicate well. The new-bus people talk from the view of the entire architecture, but the focus of the PAO people is how to face the reality *NOW*. There are too many problematic laptops, pc-cards and bioses. Many people, especially in Japan, need a solution that works now. PAO is admittedly a collection of workarounds built from a huge knowledgebase of everyday-laptop-users. But these problems can't be solved just from a clean design. The two parties should respect differences in their positions. I for one feel that both efforts are very important for laptop users. --Kenjiro To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message