From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 24 12:32:13 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21C0016A418; Tue, 24 Jul 2007 12:32:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (ns0.blackend.org [82.227.222.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6155513C491; Tue, 24 Jul 2007 12:32:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l6OCW52a038024; Tue, 24 Jul 2007 14:32:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.4/8.13.3/Submit) id l6OCW0Mv038021; Tue, 24 Jul 2007 14:32:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 14:32:00 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: "Peter N. M. Hansteen" Message-ID: <20070724123159.GA37556@abigail.blackend.org> Mail-Followup-To: "Peter N. M. Hansteen" , "Simon L. Nielsen" , cvs-doc@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org, Giorgos Keramidas , Mark Linimon , doc-committers@freebsd.org, Chin-San Huang References: <200707190121.l6J1LOvd007607@repoman.freebsd.org> <20070719054803.GA1002@gothic.blackend.org> <469F1D0F.2090307@FreeBSD.org> <20070719125410.GA9766@kobe.laptop> <20070720101143.GB1002@gothic.blackend.org> <20070724081342.GA32106@soaustin.net> <20070724094216.GA1003@zaphod.nitro.dk> <87vecam7ym.fsf@thingy.datadok.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87vecam7ym.fsf@thingy.datadok.no> X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: cvs-doc@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, "Simon L. Nielsen" , Mark Linimon , doc-committers@FreeBSD.org, Chin-San Huang , Giorgos Keramidas Subject: Re: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports/chapter.sgml X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 12:32:13 -0000 On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 12:06:41PM +0200, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: > "Simon L. Nielsen" writes: > > > Personally I think maneging ports is such an integral part of running > > a FreeBSD system that it should be in the Handbook itself. > > FWIW, I agree with Simon here. The ports+packages system is very much > part of the daily care and feeding. If this amounts to moving the > description of how to install ports and maintain them on a running > system out of the Handbook, I think it's not a very wise move. > I also agree but Giorgos and Mark's ideas are interesting. Adding, removing, upgrading applications is one of the most important managing task for the normal user. I would even add this task is maybe the only one a normal user will use to perform on a frequent basis, once the system has been installed. So, it's difficult to imagine the Handbook without a chapter about these operations. But this normal user doesn't need to become a ports system expert, he just need to know simple/general methods to install, remove and upgrade his applications. The specific/expert methods (and tools?) should be the subject of specific articles or parts of the Porters Handbook. -- Marc