From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sun May 20 15:14:02 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88F55EE43CD; Sun, 20 May 2018 15:14:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from smtp-out-no.shaw.ca (smtp-out-no.shaw.ca [64.59.134.9]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DB38A83180; Sun, 20 May 2018 15:14:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from spqr.komquats.com ([70.67.125.17]) by shaw.ca with ESMTPA id KQ1xfmt1huYopKQ1yfaBtY; Sun, 20 May 2018 09:13:55 -0600 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=GopsBH9C c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=VFtTW3WuZNDh6VkGe7fA3g==:117 a=VFtTW3WuZNDh6VkGe7fA3g==:17 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=VUJBJC2UJ8kA:10 a=YqRfAJJkAAAA:8 a=7Qk2ozbKAAAA:8 a=YxBL1-UpAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=jO70F6GEUZp9jOOeJw0A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=EZxYlxVqKW1-bC4Rwo9g:22 a=1lyxoWkJIXJV6VJUPhuM:22 a=Ia-lj3WSrqcvXOmTRaiG:22 a=IjZwj45LgO3ly-622nXo:22 Received: from slippy.cwsent.com (slippy [10.1.1.91]) by spqr.komquats.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 013D8E36; Sun, 20 May 2018 08:13:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slippy.cwsent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slippy.cwsent.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w4KFDqpA009180; Sun, 20 May 2018 08:13:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from slippy (cy@localhost) by slippy.cwsent.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id w4KFDq1v009177; Sun, 20 May 2018 08:13:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com) Message-Id: <201805201513.w4KFDq1v009177@slippy.cwsent.com> X-Authentication-Warning: slippy.cwsent.com: cy owned process doing -bs X-Mailer: exmh version 2.8.0 04/21/2012 with nmh-1.7.1 Reply-to: Cy Schubert From: Cy Schubert X-os: FreeBSD X-Sender: cy@cwsent.com X-URL: http://www.cschubert.com/ To: Tijl Coosemans cc: Warner Losh , Steve Kargl , Andreas Nilsson , FreeBSD X11 mailing list , Current FreeBSD Subject: Re: [RFC] Deprecation and removal of the drm2 driver In-Reply-To: Message from Tijl Coosemans of "Sun, 20 May 2018 15:52:29 +0200." <20180520155229.73447c1c@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 20 May 2018 08:13:52 -0700 X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfAJKU1vLlygmnv5DjtnstNm4M/xNpeee2JS2ezvHSY9RHL/+EDgGQ6LEh0DZ5IOoIka32e6iH5fFxURfNEsdi0hL+3OON88WPdXYVjx+pOZuKugMy1Pd I7TBucXBite/GN39YljF2bBC5+KsZilWWtr8MuxfxGfCp/wIfpkuWH8upTnxvoXUC67ykdJoDVZ5cOBUsrqfj1bmwFA21daKkkVklTx1pGv08FqfsZtU6HXS WUc5EU0NS5nCbvtstIRApto91xIoTIUX8FO0H/psb1juUiCVijrRub7STQtEK9ary11vkbl4eYnjbOFhwFmFz/niDd4b3jrz6wL6JJwF7iXbr+UOOENVPa00 4crxZ1saqsVS8GMOMbrb8IKzyfI4p1chs/8Q8R3myz00WLvv9UiAFna8paQfyZ1S0RuaVeroQjwznHwo4ehrvKBcUT6Nlw== X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 May 2018 15:14:02 -0000 In message <20180520155229.73447c1c@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org>, Tijl Cooseman s writes: > On Fri, 18 May 2018 14:03:32 -0600 Warner Losh wrote: > > So do people use i386 for desktop? And need the latest KMS stuff? > > I use radeonkms on i386. But what about other architectures like powerpc? > > If it's getting in the way, can't it be turned into a port instead of > removing it? (All parts of FreeBSD should be available as ports imho.) Yes, I think this is the way out. First create a port while implementing a knob in base to disable drm2 build, with deprecation notice for those who choose to. After a month or two remove drm2. That should give enough time for those on -CURRENT who choose, to make the switch. -- Cheers, Cy Schubert FreeBSD UNIX: Web: http://www.FreeBSD.org The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few.