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Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2016 07:15:22 +0300
From: dan_partelly <dan_partelly@rdsor.ro>
To: Glen Barber <gjb@FreeBSD.org>
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On Wed, 20 Apr 2016 04:07:11 +0000, Glen Barber <gjb@FreeBSD.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 06:59:38AM +0300, dan_partelly wrote:
>> 
>> > 
>> > Sadly the tenor and tone of the discussion isn’t one where progress
is
>> > made. The tone has been a bit toxic and demanding, which grinds
people
>> into
>> > dust, rather than motivating them to fix things. You might call it a
>> > discussion, but it reads to me more as a bunch of angry villagers
>> storming
>> > the castle. No good can come from that. Tone down the outrage by a
>> factor
>> > of 100 and try to have the conversation again.
>> > 
>> 
>> I'm frankly perplexed by this statement. Its seldom I perceived so much

>> sorrow and bitterness in 6 lines. There is no castle Warner, unless you
>> want one to exist, one where you can isolate yourself from the
>> indentured
>> peasants and anything they say. Beyond your thick walls you'll be well
>> served,
>> every idea outside your wals will be toned down by a factor of 100 by
the
>> time
>> it reaches  the lord, becoming total agreement with anything the lord
>> thinks. 
>> 
>> I cant believe I wrote this shit. But then again, I cant believe you
just
>> wrote
>> what you did.
>> 
> 
> And it's responses like this that are severely demotivating.

Such statements, such answers. But Im done with this. It degenerates
in emotional outbursts, much to the shame of all parts involved.