From owner-freebsd-chat Sat May 18 18:23:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from excalibur.skynet.be (excalibur.skynet.be [195.238.3.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5429837B401 for ; Sat, 18 May 2002 18:23:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.9.8.215] (ip-27.shub-internet.org [194.78.144.27] (may be forged)) by excalibur.skynet.be (8.11.6/8.11.6/Skynet-OUT-2.19) with ESMTP id g4J1MlH23372; Sun, 19 May 2002 03:22:47 +0200 (MET DST) (envelope-from ) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: bs663385@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3CE6F154.989966DD@mindspring.com> References: <20020516004909.A9808@daemon.tisys.org> <20020516151801.A47974@energyhq.homeip.net> <20020516172853.A7750@daemon.tisys.org> <3CE40759.7C584101@mindspring.com> <20020516220616.A51305@energyhq.homeip.net> <3CE43D08.1FDBF0A3@mindspring.com> <20020517163624.GB9697@hades.hell.gr> <3CE58F73.1A7F50AF@mindspring.com> <3CE5B62B.2B26239B@mindspring.com> <3CE6F154.989966DD@mindspring.com> X-Grok: +++ath X-WebTV-Stationery: Standard; BGColor=black; TextColor=black Reply-By: Wed, 1 Jan 1984 12:34:56 +0100 X-Message-Flag: Your copy of Outlook will expire in 3 days. Please contact Microsoft about purchasing a new license. Remember: software piracy is a felony! Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 03:21:27 +0200 To: Terry Lambert , Brad Knowles From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: The road ahead? Cc: Giorgos Keramidas , Miguel Mendez , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 5:27 PM -0700 2002/05/18, Terry Lambert wrote: >> Again, I disagree. If you want to turn it off, you can use the >> software. If the software doesn't work, you can unplug it. > > And if the software *does* work... 8-)... how do I turn it back > on? Unplug it and then plug it back in. > If it's really an appliance, like a fax machine, then it needs to be > obviously idle when it comes time to close the office at the end of > the business day. Now there is a statement that I'll agree with. > There's a really simple equation here: > > "Lights blinking" == "Costing me money" Employees don't think about this. Maybe managers do, but employees don't. Trust me, we had a "monitors off" policy at Skynet, a big sign on the the door that said "Did you turn off your monitor?", etc.... And no one ever did. My wife's company has the same policy, and they don't do it either. Whenever we go in on the weekends, I usually spend ten or fifteen minutes going around the office and turning off all the monitors -- the ones that have been on since Friday. > One real problem we had with InterJets was that people would > actually turn them off every night before leaving the office. It > was because of the lights. You definitely need a way to turn off the LCD, while leaving the rest of the system in a "sleep" mode. > Linux: demand the source code. Most likely, they are using one > of the LCDs referenced at "linux1u" anyway (serial or parallel > commodity LCY; my bet would be on serial). Asking for the source code doesn't help me if I'm not a programmer, and if I can't then contribute the code back to the FreeBSD project. >> If I'm going to be forced to go the retro-fit route anyway, then >> I might as well buy a Qube. > > Have fun porting to MIPS. The Qube runs MIPS? I thought it was an x86 architecture? I know that some of the older 1U hardware was based on MIPS, but I thought that they had used a different architecture for the Qube. Okay, so I run NetBSD instead. I'd prefer FreeBSD, but if I have no choice, then so be it. -- Brad Knowles, "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message