From nobody Thu Oct 28 05:49:04 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-arch@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E845F1815E7F for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2021 05:49:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philip@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Hfvkt5wGBz3PdC; Thu, 28 Oct 2021 05:49:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philip@freebsd.org) Received: from auth1-smtp.messagingengine.com (auth1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.227]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: philip/mail) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A3DDB4B1B; Thu, 28 Oct 2021 05:49:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philip@freebsd.org) Received: from compute6.internal (compute6.nyi.internal [10.202.2.46]) by mailauth.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CCAB27C0054; Thu, 28 Oct 2021 01:49:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute6.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 28 Oct 2021 01:49:10 -0400 X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvtddrvdeguddgleeiucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucenucfjughrpefhvffufffokfgjfhggtgesthdtmh dtredttdenucfhrhhomheprfhhihhlihhpucfrrggvphhsuceophhhihhlihhpsehfrhgv vggsshgurdhorhhgqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpedvgfdtledvgfeggeehfefgvedtke fhjeeludfgvdeftefgudduleegtdeludekudenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecu rfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehphhhilhhiphdomhgvshhmthhprghuthhhphgvrh hsohhnrghlihhthidqudduieeivdeivdegkedqvdefhedukedttdekqdhphhhilhhiphep pehfrhgvvggsshgurdhorhhgsehtrhhouhgslhgvrdhish X-ME-Proxy: Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Thu, 28 Oct 2021 01:49:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Philip Paeps To: Warner Losh Cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Firm Timeline for MIPS removal from FreeBSD Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2021 13:49:04 +0800 X-Mailer: MailMate (1.14r5842) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-arch List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 2021-10-28 11:08:47 (+0800), Warner Losh wrote: > Please find enclosed my proposed firm timeline for the removal of mips > from > FreeBSD, as previously discussed. There was no opposition to the plan > when > I posted before. The major > users of FreeBSD/mips in the past have mostly moved on and they > indicated > no objections > to the plan. And Adrian has committed his first arm port as well... > > So, I propose the following rather quick timeline: > > November 1: disconnect from tinderbox / universe. Add notices to > appropriate manuals and MFC them. > November 5: Post a review for its removal > November 15: commit the removal, assuming the review goes well. > > Comments? Do you have a suggestion for when we can remove the mips packages from the pkg mirrors? Since you mention MFCing this change, I assume we should stop building and distributing packages for 12 and 13 too. How long should we keep the last package set around for (if at all?) I ask because I'd rather use the disk space on the mirrors for more better supported architectures. While the footprint of mips packages is trivial in comparison to most others, it's not zero. And syncing them across the mirrors takes time too. Philip -- Philip Paeps Senior Reality Engineer Alternative Enterprises