From owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 17:04:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F44916A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 17:04:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tx4.mail.ox.ac.uk (tx4.mail.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.173]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA53943D2D for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 17:04:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin.percival@wadham.ox.ac.uk) Received: from scan4.mail.ox.ac.uk ([129.67.1.177] helo=localhost) by tx4.mail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1CMrDu-0001A9-Fc for freebsd-security@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:04:34 +0100 Received: from rx4.mail.ox.ac.uk ([129.67.1.172]) by localhost (scan4.mail.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.177]) (amavisd-new, port 25) with ESMTP id 04209-04 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:04:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from gateway.wadham.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.161.253]) by rx4.mail.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 4.42) id 1CMrDu-00019x-Ek for freebsd-security@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:04:34 +0100 Received: (qmail 4707 invoked by uid 1004); 27 Oct 2004 17:04:34 -0000 Received: from colin.percival@wadham.ox.ac.uk by gateway by uid 71 with qmail-scanner-1.20 (clamscan: 0.67. sweep: 2.18/3.79. Clear:RC:1(163.1.161.203):. Processed in 0.047027 secs); 27 Oct 2004 17:04:34 -0000 Received: from dhcp1203.wadham.ox.ac.uk (HELO ?163.1.161.203?) (163.1.161.203) by gateway.wadham.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 27 Oct 2004 17:04:34 -0000 Message-ID: <417FD521.3020204@wadham.ox.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:04:33 +0100 From: Colin Percival User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (X11/20040928) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?= References: <417EAC7E.2040103@wadham.ox.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: freebsd-security@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: please test: Secure ports tree updating X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Security issues [members-only posting] List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 17:04:36 -0000 Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > Colin Percival writes: >>CVSup is slow, insecure, and a memory hog. > > if cvsup is slow, you're not using it right. Let me rephrase. CVSup is slower than necessary when fetching only a small number of updates, especially if you have a slow uplink. > I'm sure portsnap is a wonderful piece of software, but there's no > need to spread FUD about cvsup to promote it. CVSup is a great piece of software. However, it's a piece of software which was designed in a rather different setting than the current problem of keeping an up-to-date ports tree. Where CVSup does a very wide range of things adequately, portsnap is designed to do one specific task very well. Colin Percival